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These have been thoroughly debunked, and no subsequent studies have shown this. In fact it has even been seen that unvaccinated expectant mothers have seen worse outcomes.


This is entirely incorrect. I showed you how each virus was entirely distinct and different from the other. I also provided you with a primer on viruses in general. This is the opposite of ambiguous.
Whenever I hear the word debunked I immediately think fact checkers, which of course are paid liars.
 

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Whenever I hear the word debunked I immediately think fact checkers, which of course are paid liars.
They're unqualified partisans who are also engaged in censorship and editing of the full facts of the matter, hence unreliable to the general public and certainly need proven verification to be considered credible and then - it's just a 3rd party opinion.
Those 2nd rate opinions is what @Russkiy Mir is basing the veracity of his🤡arguments on.
 

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I've seen studies produce recently on this thread which involve teams of scientist in a multitude of locations, funded to the fullest with all the top labs & equipment, data and test subjects, everything at their disposal in identifying the pathogens, understanding the infections, identifying the processes up to the DNA level and physically manipulating that viral DNA amazing.

They exhibit a mastery of understanding and then produce a substance which is presented as a mysterious Cure for a mysterious Disease called Covid-19 which when administered has little or no preventative or curing effect and is marketed as being Safe & Effective when now we know it is not safe or effective for a huge percentage of recipients, therefore we know the producers claims are false and bogus, therefore we can safely assume that the promoters of such substances are themselves false and bogus in their intention to convince the wider public and here on the boards - What else could be the alternative?
 

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They're unqualified partisans who are also engaged in censorship and editing of the full facts of the matter, hence unreliable to the general public and certainly need proven verification to be considered credible and then - it's just a 3rd party opinion.
Those 2nd rate opinions is what @Russkiy Mir is basing the veracity of his🤡arguments on.
In the early days of the web it was possible to hold insightful conversations with people who were reasonably intelligent and understood the unwritten, yet well established, rules of debate. Now we are daily faced by the sort of unashamed and quite deliberate ignorance exemplified by the CW sock. Doubtless they feel they are furthering whatever cause they are paid to promote, but, TBH, it hardens my desire to fight whatever stupidity they parade before us.
 

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@Mad as Fish As I understand that you've and others here had a long experience with the Poster/s in question? I myself am fairly new to the debate/dealing with difficult posters so it's taking time to truly know the levels and methods in operations. Admittedly I used to lurk a few years ago on Pish and remember that CW was tenacious in legal debate, reprimanding other posters when in fact CW was often just hanging on by a minor technicality but acting like it was the full authority🤨
It's not funny though when it comes to these life & death serious issues when they posters are promoting dangerous drugs without due care and qualification. We on the other hand fundamentally advise great caution for the best of humane reasons - Look up our sleeves - No profit or mandatory agenda.
 

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They have been debunked by all number of government and international agencies, independent studies and all sorts of research. Remember the vaccines have already been rolled out. So where is the proof of your assertion in the data? Its not enough to quote numbers. You have to conclusively show the numbers are significantly higher than would be expected.
It's gone beyond your 2nd rate partisan sources opinions, you've shown nothing relevant in your own terms on this threads last 20 pages. The numbers speak for themselves as derived from the pharma manufacturer, EU regulators and WHO who now recommend redress for Adversity , something both you and egghead fail to address - you both are lacking and whose information is inadequate and unacceptable for the positions you occupy "Safe and Effective" you are not.

The data is actually indicating unvaccinated expectant mothers have a higher risk profile and higher miscarriage rate
The industry data shows a wide variety of symptoms including death and serious side effects both on the foetus and breast feeding infants.
You've had it now.
 

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It's gone beyond your 2nd rate partisan sources opinions, you've shown nothing relevant in your own terms on this threads last 20 pages. The numbers speak for themselves as derived from the pharma manufacturer, EU regulators and WHO who now recommend redress for Adversity , something both you and egghead fail to address - you both are lacking and whose information is inadequate and unacceptable for the positions you occupy "Safe and Effective" you are not.


The industry data shows a wide variety of symptoms including death and serious side effects both on the foetus and breast feeding infants.
You've had it now.
Wasting your time with the attention seeking moron.👍
 

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Miscarriage occurs in up to one third of pregnancies.




 

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So where is the proof of your assertion in the data?



 

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Look, it's stuck in the same old argument it was making in 2020.
It's incapable of moving on from that, living proof of the mental damage done to these cultists by their cult leaders.
All it does now is to chase its tail around in circles squealing 'look at me, look at me'.

I've stuck it back on ignore at Declan's request and I suggest you and others here do the same.
Let it embarrass itself all it likes and @valamhic can rub its belly as it begs.
 

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You have to conclusively show the numbers are significantly higher than would be expected.
Your wannabe-status of authority on "Safe and Effective" is over. So says the Evidence



 

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Look, it's stuck in the same old argument it was making in 2020.
It's incapable of moving on from that, living proof of the mental damage done to these cultists by their cult leaders.
All it does now is to chase its tail around in circles squealing 'look at me, look at me'.

I've stuck it back on ignore at Declan's request and I suggest you and others here do the same.
Let it embarrass itself all it likes and @valamhic can rub its belly as it begs.
I agree fully. Sifting through the links and realising the destruction which is caused and encouraged by the likes of Russkiy Mir who is stuck on refute/debunk mode and in denial to the adversity - they have become reprehensible and almost sickening to discuss health issues with. I'm getting the feeling we are dealing with an individual whose mentality is akin to a Shipman or Letby POV who would deny harm regardless of any proof presented and still claim "Safe and Effective" from behind bars for life.

Yes, I'm ready to ignore it and move on to other stages of the discussion, the points are well proved by now.
Although I'm glad to have had the discussions as it enables one to do research, find proof which make a certain stronger case and learn more of the history and latest developments while showing up the flaws in the "Safe and Effective" theory.
Yes, let's try the Ignore button for a while👎
 

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I agree fully. Sifting through the links and realising the destruction which is caused and encouraged by the likes of Russkiy Mir who is stuck on refute/debunk mode and in denial to the adversity - they have become reprehensible and almost sickening to discuss health issues with. I'm getting the feeling we are dealing with an individual whose mentality is akin to a Shipman or Letby POV who would deny harm regardless of any proof presented and still claim "Safe and Effective" from behind bars for life.

Yes, I'm ready to ignore it and move on to other stages of the discussion, the points are well proved by now.
Although I'm glad to have had the discussions as it enables one to do research, find proof which make a certain stronger case and learn more of the history and latest developments while showing up the flaws in the "Safe and Effective" theory.
Yes, let's try the Ignore button for a while👎
Let it and @valamhic rub each others bellies, or whatever else they're into.
Mad people.
 

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Let it and @valamhic rub each others bellies, or whatever else they're into.
Mad people.
Yes - Val is a free agent to do what he see's appropriate. I can respect him taking the side of someone who receives abusive comments and especially as a moderator he has to have a fair play policy for all and can only take so much back chat in the public view so TBH I'm going to take a neutral view on this issue, though I am largely on your side in regard to Tank/tauri/russkiy however that poster imo has a function to perform on the site and I believe must be allowed to do as it does, we can learn how to develop better strategy in dealing with such. I know I need to brush up on getting a bit smarter for the role, and you too should benefit in perhaps trying a different approach because direct confrontation with abuse has a way of being a bit self defeating at times too.
Sometimes it wrecks the good work done, for sure.
We've all got to learn to make it better for ourselves and all who participate. Let's start with the Charlattan on Ignore for a week or two?😌
Peace to all on Sunday🌱
 

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Yes - Val is a free agent to do what he see's appropriate. I can respect him taking the side of someone who receives abusive comments and especially as a moderator he has to have a fair play policy for all and can only take so much back chat in the public view so TBH I'm going to take a neutral view on this issue, though I am largely on your side in regard to Tank/tauri/russkiy however that poster imo has a function to perform on the site and I believe must be allowed to do as it does, we can learn how to develop better strategy in dealing with such. I know I need to brush up on getting a bit smarter for the role, and you too should benefit in perhaps trying a different approach because direct confrontation with abuse has a way of being a bit self defeating at times too.
Sometimes it wrecks the good work done, for sure.
We've all got to learn to make it better for ourselves and all who participate. Let's start with the Charlattan on Ignore for a week or two?😌
Peace to all on Sunday🌱
Agreed.
We can all see from your posts containing proof of adverse reactions etc, some of them from the drug manufacturers themselves, that the troll is here to cause trouble and not engage in serious discussion at all.
This is the result of being a fully fledged member of the most toxic cult on the planet presently.
Hopefully it gets the mental health intervention it so obviously needs.
As you say, best to ignore it now, for it's own good as much as for ours.
Enjoy your Sunday.
W.
 

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@Mad as Fish As I understand that you've and others here had a long experience with the Poster/s in question? I myself am fairly new to the debate/dealing with difficult posters so it's taking time to truly know the levels and methods in operations. Admittedly I used to lurk a few years ago on Pish and remember that CW was tenacious in legal debate, reprimanding other posters when in fact CW was often just hanging on by a minor technicality but acting like it was the full authority🤨
It's not funny though when it comes to these life & death serious issues when they posters are promoting dangerous drugs without due care and qualification. We on the other hand fundamentally advise great caution for the best of humane reasons - Look up our sleeves - No profit or mandatory agenda.
I am strongly of the opinion that the CW/Tank/Risky sex handle is a front for an establishment team, quite who pays for it we will probably never know, but we must bear in mind that Schwab of the WEF has boasted of having 11,000 'influencers' out there and I should imagine its more a network rather than 11,000 individuals tucked away behind their own little wall of pizza boxes.

What I have noted is that they appear to have a veneer of competence in certain areas, as noted, CW loved his technical nit picking on the legal front and he applied exactly the same technique to the covid event. Yet one was left with the strong opinion it was a different person at the keyboard, one who could assemble the arguments in a manner that would convince the casual observer, yet drill deeper and that veneeer would usually prove somewhat thin, as you have so abley demonstrated on this thread.

I think we are looking at teams rather than individals, each with a codified style so the cracks between the individuals are less apparent. Interestingly, none of them engage with me directly as I have, on several occasions, shown them up as the liars and BS merchants that they are. Team orders methinks.

Keep up the good work, its great that that there is someone with the expertise to really blow these twats out of the water.
 
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Yes - Val is a free agent to do what he see's appropriate. I can respect him taking the side of someone who receives abusive comments and especially as a moderator he has to have a fair play policy for all and can only take so much back chat in the public view so TBH I'm going to take a neutral view on this issue, though I am largely on your side in regard to Tank/tauri/russkiy however that poster imo has a function to perform on the site and I believe must be allowed to do as it does, we can learn how to develop better strategy in dealing with such. I know I need to brush up on getting a bit smarter for the role, and you too should benefit in perhaps trying a different approach because direct confrontation with abuse has a way of being a bit self defeating at times too.
Sometimes it wrecks the good work done, for sure.
We've all got to learn to make it better for ourselves and all who participate. Let's start with the Charlattan on Ignore for a week or two?😌
Peace to all on Sunday🌱
I wouldn't like to see him banned as the more he posts, the more of a buck eejit he makes of himself. Russkiy is an egotistical clown. A moron.

Coming out with the amount of crap he posts, bear in mind the vitriol that was thrown at us during the Covid panic, then abuse will come his way. That's life.
 

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I wouldn't like to see him banned as the more he posts, the more of a buck eejit he makes of himself. Russkiy is an egotistical clown. A moron.

Coming out with the amount of crap he posts, bear in mind the vitriol that was thrown at us during the Covid panic, then abuse will come his way. That's life.
Join the boycott, stick the clown on ignore.👍
 

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