A Possible Energy Shutdown?

Diarmuid said:
The Gardai and MSM have faciliated the protests up until yesterday. MSM are advertising more protests for today.

Talk of resisting the Gardai is foolish: They have pepper spray, tasers, guns and total surveillance of phones and internet. They can torture and kill people and get away with it. Isn't that right, Haven?

When they moved into Whitegate, they cut social media.

If they order us to move, the logical thing to do is to move. Protests outside the politicians' houses are much more effective and less disruptive to the general public.

MSM reporting that O'Connell st protest moving off peacefully.
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Are we not getting to the point were 'protests' are a pointless exercise? That the repeated request for 'peaceful' protest really doesnt do anything but suit those being protested.

If the public are more upset with the disruption than the protest is that not indicative of conditions were the public are not at the end of their tether?
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
Isnt this the way it always works? The government buys off an element of the protest movement and the rest crumbles behind that.

I remember doing the Great Reform Act in the UK in 1832 in school. The working classes and middle classes campaigned for the vote.
The government granted it to the upper middle classes who were happy to accept that and let the working classes who had been the spine of the movement go to hell.

The idea of a package specifically for key groups has been floated in the media for the last few days.

I'd imagine that the talks are focussed on how good the package will be for them.

I fully expect that the general population will not be included.
Expect the 'cope' will be that lorry men and farmers are central to the economy and their alleviation will trickle down to the general population in terms of food on the shelves and fuel available at the pumps.
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Precisely the reason why the government refused to talk to the organisers of the protest, the trade bodies are predictable and structured groups that can be more easily manipulated than a loose mix of farmers and hauliers.
 
Mad as Fish said:
Precisely the reason why the government refused to talk to the organisers of the protest, the trade bodies are predictable and structured groups that can be more easily manipulated than a loose mix of farmers and hauliers.
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A lot of them will be bought off with jobs down the line ! ! !

Maybe an NGO well paid gig ~ Head of a Charity and the likes ~ Of course these " Jobs " will come with " Expenses " / Fat Pension / etc, etc , etc.

Irish Trade Union Bosses are also bought off in the same way ! ! !
 
Thats totally true, you know a few years ago they found out that the General Secretary of the IFA was on about 450,000 a year, including everthing, while many of the farmers were on the breadline.
 
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Galway port cleared.

Foynes blockade to end.

M50 cleared.
 
scolairebocht said:
But I believe what basically happened in Whitegate is that the Gardai crushed it by dragging guys out of tractors etc? It was that more than any deal? They seem to be doing that in Galway too and the pressure is on as regards O'Connell Street...
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i dont think that at all -- the people running this are very savvy --i had a group who won their all ireland at the basketball arena in tallaght yesterday and i had to divert through cookstown on the old dublin road and the motorway signs falsley stated the motorway was blocked but the truck/tractor men allowed a single line through .
everyone got to hospitals /airport/work/ and yet there was a visible protest .
they very cleverly kept ireland on their side and i listened to the kids on the bus --there was respect for the PROTESTERS as they correctly termed them -- kids betray any preduice quickly and there was none .
the government claimed irish hardworking men who have finance of 2 million and upwards on their equipment --now follow an english skinhead tommy robinson .
this mad shit exposes them for what they are --a group of unhinged fuckers looking for a place to insert the tampon from their tampon machine in the dail mens toilets .
 
Has to be said, it was an excellent week for the protesters, up there with the water protests from years back.
FFG have proven that they're running scared.
Their first reaction was to threaten the very lifeblood of this country with the pretend army and the riot squads.
The damage inflicted on the WEF/EU puppets Mehole Martin and Sinead Harris will become clear in the weeks to come.
Establishment bootlicking perverts see this as some kind of victory but in the end the boots they licked will pay the price.
 
Wolf said:
Has to be said, it was an excellent week for the protesters, up there with the water protests from years back.
FFG have proven that they're running scared.
Their first reaction was to threaten the very lifeblood of this country with the pretend army and the riot squads.
The damage inflicted on the WEF/EU puppets Mehole Martin and Sinead Harris will become clear in the weeks to come.
Establishment bootlicking perverts see this as some kind of victory but in the end the boots they licked will pay the price.
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And the boots they lick will often turn and kick them when it suits, with no remorse or second thought.
 
scolairebocht said:
Thats totally true, you know a few years ago they found out that the General Secretary of the IFA was on about 450,000 a year, including everthing, while many of the farmers were on the breadline.
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Yep, partly funded by the government and all quartered down at Bluebell alongside The Farmers Journal, so it's a lost cause expecting anything other than the establishment narrative emanating from that cosy little stitch up and one can understand why the government only wanted to talk to it rather than the riff raff.

More on that salary scandal from Wikipedia -

In November 2015, Eddie Downey (President) and Pat Smith (General Secretary) resigned due to a salary controversy. Smith's salary in 2013 had been €535,000. He resigned on 18 November. A week later, members of the organisation's national executive council were informed that Smith had been given €2m in severance and €2.7m in pension. Eddie Downey admitted he had signed off on this agreement and resigned. Downey was earning €147,000 a year plus €50,000 in add-ons when he resigned.
 
Haven said:
Galway port cleared.

Foynes blockade to end.

M50 cleared.
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For now. The protestors have scared the sh1t out of the government and shown how useless SF, soc dems, labour etc are, and as for Catherine Hamas, where the fcuk did she go. If fuel remains too expensive, they can re block to their hearts content. The poll in the sindo today has the political class terrified, despite all the propaganda of hospital appointments missed (which never bothered them in the past), the overwhelming majority of the public support the protests 🤔
 
I respect the protestors, and think they did a good job in highlighting government ineptitude and waste.

But the biggest problem the country faces, politically, is that the same cosy cartel that have governed for the last 20 years will be governing for he next 20 years thanks to the dumb electorate.

It should be a shame to each and everyone of us that the failed school teacher from Cork, the university dropout from Wicklow, and the Nepo baby bimbo from Meath all occupy positions of authority in this country. In any serious country, such wilfully dumb and inept individuals would be a million miles away from any position of power.

But I think ultimately that's the cold reality. Ireland isn't a serious country. There are so many examples of national decline it beggars belief: from the country actively designating itself as a tax haven for US multinationals; the crisis around immigration and the gaugers profiting off of same; the extent to which unelected NGOs influence policy; the fact that no young person can afford a house; the various social problems. And so on and so on.

I'd advise anyone young enough to emigrate before it's too late.
 
The People have Spoken!!

And We, your Government have listened!!!

and here you are....


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Aldo3 said:
In any serious country, such wilfully dumb and inept individuals would be a million miles away from any position of power.
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True. But everywhere in Europe you have people who are just as bad or worse. US is no better.

I have travelled a lot. One world, one mafia. Emigration is no solution. Stand your ground.
 
Perry said:
10 cent per litre already wiped out with the failure in talks in Pakistan.
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Iran has suffered the full onslaught of Israel and the US for a month now and has emerged from the rubble filled with anger and a desire for vengence on the west. I don't think we can expect too much sympathy over the next year or so.
 
SeekTheFairLand said:
Are we not getting to the point were 'protests' are a pointless exercise? That the repeated request for 'peaceful' protest really doesnt do anything but suit those being protested.

If the public are more upset with the disruption than the protest is that not indicative of conditions were the public are not at the end of their tether?
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I think the public loved the protests, just not the shortage of fuel. The system loves a violent protest - that gives them an excuse to be violent.

Peaceful protests that use hurty words about named politicians are something that they hate, particularly if it is in the public street outside their house :)

I think it's definitely worth liasing with Gardai to confirm that it's OK to do demos on the public road outside the politician's house. Gardai are in semi-mutiny mode at the moment, so it is worth a try.
 
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