Abortion: Killing babies for fun, profit, spite and spiritual growth

You are already debating with me online! If you think I am mad, why debate at all?

Do you have any objection to abortion being called baby killing/murdering?

I've given nine protocols for the debate. Do you disagree with any of them? Which ones? Why?
 
You are already debating with me online! If you think I am mad, why debate at all?

Do you have any objection to abortion being called baby killing/murdering?

I've given nine protocols for the debate. Do you disagree with any of them? Which ones? Why?
You’re wasting your time Diarmuid. The first rule of pro abortionists when it comes to debating the subject of abortion is to obfuscate and avoid all talk of killing innocent babies at all cost. Talk about anything other than the actual crux of the issue.
 
One of the reasons attitudes to abortion changed is because the Left convinced many women that pregnancy is seriously dangerous and terrifying. While there are risks, the chances of something going wrong are in the same realm as getting knocked down when crossing the road. Pregnancy to the Left means the likely risk of death, or at least the end of their youth. They also use "mental health" arguments for why pregnancy is bad. This is another inversion of reality because giving birth is natural.

No woman don't actually wants to have an abortion, but they have been convinced to want the option, a failsafe key, just in case they get pregnant. 'Just in case' is any hypothetical scenario unlikely to happen. Some women want the abortion option even though they themselves have decided they never want to have children (instead of choosing legal contraceptive options or getting their tubes tied). Some want it even though they don't have sex and will never get pregnant.

Pregnancy to the Left means your life is danger, no getting pissed every weekend and spending all your money on clothes and travel, your career is ruined, you'll have to "slave all day over a hot stove", you'll just be a boring mother staying at home while all your friends are having fun getting wasted and riding the cock carousel. It's all ridiculous because mothers are usually very happy about their baby. For some it is the happiest time of their life. Mothers are generally happier than non-mothers who are often miserable, feminist cat ladies and wine aunts.
 
You’re wasting your time Diarmuid. The first rule of pro abortionists when it comes to debating the subject of abortion is to obfuscate and avoid all talk of killing innocent babies at all cost. Talk about anything other than the actual crux of the issue.
Indeed. I still think it would be worthwhile to organise a real life men's debate and invite the abortion enthusiasts.

Obviously they will not turn up, but we can leave empty chairs for them, with photos of their smirking faces. We can spend a hour or so ridiculing their arguments and drawing attention to the fact that they are cowards. Then it's time for a up close and personal ceili and old time dancing evening, with all those beautiful, fertile, non feminist pro-life ladies.

This would help in establishing us as the Alphas and in encouraging women to mock pro-abortion men.
 
One of the reasons attitudes to abortion changed is because the Left convinced many women that pregnancy is seriously dangerous and terrifying. While there are risks, the chances of something going wrong are in the same realm as getting knocked down when crossing the road.
The Finnish study puts all cause one year death after childbirth as one in 4,000. Abortion is one in 1,000.

giving birth is natural.
Pregnancy and childbirth are the blossoming of woman.
No woman don't actually wants to have an abortion, but they have been convinced to want the option, a failsafe key, just in case they get pregnant. '
The bastards are working overtime at the convincing.

Pregnancy to the Left means your life is danger, no getting pissed every weekend and spending all your money on clothes and travel, your career is ruined, you'll have to "slave all day over a hot stove", you'll just be a boring mother staying at home while all your friends are having fun getting wasted and riding the cock carousel. It's all ridiculous because mothers are usually very happy about their baby.
Exactly. They relentlessly promote the idea that pregnancy and childbirth is a hassle, blah, blah, blah.


For some it is the happiest time of their life.

For the vast, vast majority, I would say. There was a scientific study of a group of women who complained about being mothers. Turned out they were all Israeli Jews. Makes sense.
Mothers are generally happier than non-mothers who are often miserable, feminist cat ladies and wine aunts.
I feel great sympathy for non mother ladies and urge all you guys out there to do your best to consensually impregnate a suitable woman, while avoiding creating any more mixed race children :)
 
Here is the post again.

Let’s see if you have the wit to leave it up this time.

It is on topic because it is a response to your delusion that you and your compadres’ position on abortion hopefully paints you in a certain light.

That deserves to be mocked.


Sounds like a tall order.

There are more than a few of your compadres on here who still struggle with the Alpha-Bet.

I suggest it might be more realistic to tell these imagined female companions of yours that you have come from the star system Alpha-Centauri.

As you are a bunch of space cadets you might get away with it.

You have a higher chance of “establishing” yourselves as Alpha-Centaurians than Alpha-Males, that’s for sure.

Unless these unfortunate women are as delusional as you are.
For an 'old gay' you seem pretty bitter and cranky.
 
Please ensure your posts have some abortion content. Shameless reposting of non relevant, purely abusive posts is doing your cause no good.
 
please confine yourself to posting abortion content
For an 'old gay' you seem pretty bitter and cranky.
I’m not old, I’m not gay, I’m not bitter, but yes I get cranky when faced with such ignorance and stupidity from my own compatriots.

But even more, I don’t take what was attempted in this thread lying down. Re-read it, the contributions, and the ganging up. The lies, the imputations, the catcalling, the straw men.

I haven’t even started hammering @Diarmuid and his accomplices back, and exposing you all as shallow idiots and liars with obvious serious personal problems and mental challenges.
 
I’m not old, I’m not gay, I’m not bitter,
You forgot something..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mirL15zZYNc

but yes I get cranky when faced with such ignorance and stupidity from my own compatriots.

But even more, I don’t take what was attempted in this thread lying down. Re-read it, the contributions, and the ganging up. The lies, the imputations, the catcalling, the straw men.

I haven’t even started hammering @Diarmuid and his accomplices back, and exposing you all as shallow idiots and liars with obvious serious personal problems and mental challenges.
 
3 k clicks in just one week! The fastest growing thread on Sarsfields!Thanks to those who have made useful and amusing posts on this tragic and bloody and very painful topic.

I ask everyone to refrain from posting non-baby killing content. General abuse can be posted in the Marcus Lounge.

It's very rewarding that the baby-killing enthusiasts don't like anti baby-killing content being posted. Touchy subject, heh girls?

There is a pro-baby killing thread on this site, with a side dish of sectarian anti-Catholicism and vulgar non-relevant abuse might be welcome there.
 
interesting, but not relevant to this thread, provide more details on general thread, grma
Is it insulting to have a Jewish parent Sir?
 
Questions ón twenty topics for male abortion enthusiasts.



There are nó right or wrong answers. We just want to know what you think. These are all questions, so we are not imputing motives or making allegations. Please don't get all emotional and upset. You probably don't know most of the answers, and that is also fine.



It's good to talk, guys. Don't bottle up your feelings :)



1. Did you watch the video of the abortion? Did it give you pleasure?

2. Were you involved in any abortions yourself? What reason was there for the abortion? How did they make you feel?

3. Were you present at the abortion referendum celebrations at Dublin Castle? Did you dance the abortion jig?

4. What are the relative one year all cause death rates for women after abortion and after birth? Do you accept that abortion kills more women than giving birth?

5. When does the baby's heartbeat start? Brainwaves? Independent motion? Capacity to feel pain?

6. What is your spiritual belief system and how does it treat abortion?

7. Are you comfortable with the sale of body parts of aborted babies?

8. Do you think mothers should get a percentage of the sale of their aborted babies?

9. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies because the father is black, brown or jewish?

10. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies to spite the fathers of the babies?

11. Are you aware that several times doctors in Ireland have diagnosed deformities in the babies in the womb and encouraged parents to abort? Should a wrong diagnosis be punishable by law?

12. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies because they are girls and the woman perceives that girl babies have less status than male babies?

13. Do you accept that Irish abortion law allows a doctor to perform an abortion without the consent of the mother? Are you comfortable with that?

14. Do you accept that, in an emergency certified by one doctor, it is possible to perform an abortion up to the time the baby has fully left the birth canal? Are you comfortable with that?

15. Of the 50k approx abortion performed in Ireland, how many of the mothers have since died?

16. What is the cost of the various types of abortion? Are you comfortable with the taxpayer paying the full cost of every abortion, even for rich and repeat abortionistas?

17. Do you have any objections to abortion being described as baby killing or murdering?

18. Do women suffer more mental health problems after abortions or birth?

19. Do you support the dismemberment and execution of rapists who impregnate women? Do you support the dismemberment and killing of babies conceived from rape?

20. What's your favourite type of abortion? Chemical, surgical or suction? A kick in the stomach?



And finally:

Are you or any other pro-abortion Irishman prepared to publicly debate the current Irish abortion laws, outside of the comforting, controlled fórum of the Oireachtas?



These are simple questions asked in good Christian faith.
 
Amazing stats for the Roc's abortion enthusiast's thread: They were about 900 views yesterday but today they are sitting pretty at 4K.

Wow. Congratulations. Good to see that people are interested in discussing this gruesome topic.
 
Amazing stats for the Roc's abortion enthusiast's thread: They were about 900 views yesterday but today they are sitting pretty at 4K.

Wow. Congratulations. Good to see that people are interested in discussing this gruesome topic.
The entire purpose of that thread was deflection. That's what pro abortionists do.
 
Amazing stats for the Roc's abortion enthusiast's thread: They were about 900 views yesterday but today they are sitting pretty at 4K.

Wow. Congratulations. Good to see that people are interested in discussing this gruesome topic.
4k views, probably Holly Cairns and the rest of the soc dems... They love a good old fashioned abortion. 11k abortions last year, before it was made legal here, they were recording about 3.5k Irish in the UK going thru this procedure, what caused the jump, sure some address may have been fake, but not 8k or so...
 
4k views, probably Holly Cairns and the rest of the soc dems... They love a good old fashioned abortion. 11k abortions last year, before it was made legal here, they were recording about 3.5k Irish in the UK going thru this procedure, what caused the jump, sure some address may have been fake, but not 8k or so...
Year one here was 6,666...OK yeah right!
 
Calls to execute people MUST be prefaced with:1. a referendum to allow the death penalty and 2.a fair,public trial with a jury of his peers and 3. The option for him to do the decent thing himself. Otherwise we could have legal problems. An dtuigeann tu?
They have taken their instructions to reduce the native birth rate and to continue flooding the country with pure filth.
This is shameful, M Martin needs a bullet between the eyes.

RTÉ News: Taoiseach, Tánaiste to back SF motion on three-day wait period for abortion
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2026/0616/1578741-dail-abortion/
 
2. Were you involved in any abortions yourself? What reason was there for the abortion? How did they make you feel?
* I paid for my mate's German bird to go to England for an abortion when I was around 20.

* She was nuts. Personally I don't think she was pregnant a'tall.

* Indifferent. As long a my mate stopped freaking out.
 
Whatever about aborting at the early stage of mere weeks, the fact is over 100 babies in Ireland survived the abortion and (by law) were left to die, gasping for air, crying, struggling all alone, dying slowly, whilst doctors were in the hallway vomiting, suffering deep psychological distress (this is on record)

How anyone could rationalise that away is beyond me. If you do dismiss it you're basically a fucking monster. Simple as that, a monster.
 
Questions ón twenty topics for male abortion enthusiasts.



There are nó right or wrong answers. We just want to know what you think. These are all questions, so we are not imputing motives or making allegations. Please don't get all emotional and upset. You probably don't know most of the answers, and that is also fine.



It's good to talk, guys. Don't bottle up your feelings :)



1. Did you watch the video of the abortion? Did it give you pleasure?

2. Were you involved in any abortions yourself? What reason was there for the abortion? How did they make you feel?

3. Were you present at the abortion referendum celebrations at Dublin Castle? Did you dance the abortion jig?

4. What are the relative one year all cause death rates for women after abortion and after birth? Do you accept that abortion kills more women than giving birth?

5. When does the baby's heartbeat start? Brainwaves? Independent motion? Capacity to feel pain?

6. What is your spiritual belief system and how does it treat abortion?

7. Are you comfortable with the sale of body parts of aborted babies?

8. Do you think mothers should get a percentage of the sale of their aborted babies?

9. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies because the father is black, brown or jewish?

10. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies to spite the fathers of the babies?

11. Are you aware that several times doctors in Ireland have diagnosed deformities in the babies in the womb and encouraged parents to abort? Should a wrong diagnosis be punishable by law?

12. Are you comfortable with women aborting babies because they are girls and the woman perceives that girl babies have less status than male babies?

13. Do you accept that Irish abortion law allows a doctor to perform an abortion without the consent of the mother? Are you comfortable with that?

14. Do you accept that, in an emergency certified by one doctor, it is possible to perform an abortion up to the time the baby has fully left the birth canal? Are you comfortable with that?

15. Of the 50k approx abortion performed in Ireland, how many of the mothers have since died?

16. What is the cost of the various types of abortion? Are you comfortable with the taxpayer paying the full cost of every abortion, even for rich and repeat abortionistas?

17. Do you have any objections to abortion being described as baby killing or murdering?

18. Do women suffer more mental health problems after abortions or birth?

19. Do you support the dismemberment and execution of rapists who impregnate women? Do you support the dismemberment and killing of babies conceived from rape?

20. What's your favourite type of abortion? Chemical, surgical or suction? A kick in the stomach?



And finally:

Are you or any other pro-abortion Irishman prepared to publicly debate the current Irish abortion laws, outside of the comforting, controlled fórum of the Oireachtas?



These are simple questions asked in good Christian faith.
that's a great list and these questions are verboten usually --
what i would add to the list is a question or two to the pro abortionists .
what opposing event has the magnitude of the birth of a human being --it would have to have an incredible status to end the life of a person,
what circumstances outweigh the person in the womb .
why do the pro abortionists throw a fit when the reasons for abortion are determined to be trivial and childlike in their intellectual honesty and the ending of life is desperately portrayed as a human right .
the denial of any human rights to a baby and the permanent termination forever of its rights are never portrayed by the abortionists as denial of human rights .
 
Whatever about aborting at the early stage of mere weeks, the fact is over 100 babies in Ireland survived the abortion and (by law) were left to die, gasping for air, crying, struggling all alone, dying slowly, whilst doctors were in the hallway vomiting, suffering deep psychological distress (this is on record)

How anyone could rationalise that away is beyond me. If you do dismiss it you're basically a fucking monster. Simple as that, a monster.
This is what Enda Kenny & the Indian brought to the country. Shameful. And SF want to speed this up.
 
Whatever about aborting at the early stage of mere weeks, the fact is over 100 babies in Ireland survived the abortion and (by law) were left to die, gasping for air, crying, struggling all alone, dying slowly, whilst doctors were in the hallway vomiting, suffering deep psychological distress (this is on record) How anyone could rationalise that away is beyond me. If you do dismiss it you're basically a fucking monster. Simple as that, a monster.
When Donald Trump said they were "executing babies after birth" they said his comments were outrageous.
 
Whatever about aborting at the early stage of mere weeks, the fact is over 100 babies in Ireland survived the abortion and (by law) were left to die, gasping for air, crying, struggling all alone, dying slowly, whilst doctors were in the hallway vomiting, suffering deep psychological distress (this is on record)

How anyone could rationalise that away is beyond me. If you do dismiss it you're basically a fucking monster. Simple as that, a monster.
The whole practice is pure evil.

I remember when I was a kid, you would see pro-life groups around town with posters showing the graphic horrors of abortion. Babies ripped to pieces and discarded in buckets etc…

If someone tried that now they’d probably be arrested for *insert made up crime* or physically assaulted by mental lefties.
 
Whatever about aborting at the early stage of mere weeks, the fact is over 100 babies in Ireland survived the abortion and (by law) were left to die, gasping for air, crying, struggling all alone, dying slowly, whilst doctors were in the hallway vomiting, suffering deep psychological distress (this is on record)

How anyone could rationalise that away is beyond me. If you do dismiss it you're basically a fucking monster. Simple as that, a monster.
That is just vile, what kind of monster could allow that. Wasn't there a party who are against even easing the pain of these poor children.
 
* I paid for my mate's German bird to go to England for an abortion when I was around 20.

* She was nuts. Personally I don't think she was pregnant a'tall.

* Indifferent. As long a my mate stopped freaking out.
Did you get your money back? How much did you fork out? Interesting that you suspect she wasn't pregnant at all. Another abortion scam.
 
RTÉ News: Taoiseach, Tánaiste to back SF motion on three-day wait period for abortion
If it safe for you to do so, please contact FFG and Independent TDs and ask them politely, legally to vote against, or at least abstain. VOTE IS TOMORROW. The Pro-Life Campaign have an email campaign, but if you have the time, a direct phone call to the Dail is better. Quite often you will get to speak to a personal flunkey of the TD and it's good fun to fuck with their heads in whatever your style is.

Ta Gaeilge ag na failteori/ receptionists and they seem to hate the politicians with a vengeance. They know all about the cocaine, the missing refugee children, Jewish lobby, etc, though obviously they can't talk about it openly. It's worth having a bit of crack with them too :)

Both FF and FG supporting the removal of the wait is incidental further proof - if any were needed - of election rigging. At least a third of voters are agin the ol'abortion ( and two thirds are in favour of mothers at home). All other parties are pedal to metal full on abortion junkies (bar Aontu), so if the elections were honest it would make sense for FFG to show a tiny bit of restraint on the baby killing. Capture that fifty percent who are not enthusiastic abortion junkies.

But no, they are going all out.
 
* I paid for my mate's German bird to go to England for an abortion when I was around 20.

* She was nuts. Personally I don't think she was pregnant a'tall.

* Indifferent. As long a my mate stopped freaking out.
Well at least you had a mate that got laid, two surprises right there
 

For TD email and phone contacts.

I'm going to invite SF/MI6 TD David Cullinane to our Men's Debate on Abortion. Heard him on Jewstalk FM being given a gentle interview by Coleman. Co-presenter Dr Ciara Kelly didn't say a word,

David bigged up the need for quick baby killing for women under coercive control. But they are precisely the women who are being forced into abortion by their darkie sex partners. He knows this, the bollocks. Strange that SF couldn't find a ffemale baby killing enthusiast to speak. They want men to get their hands bloody also, i suppose.

The venue for the debate is Killarney, around the end of October, to coincide with the Oireachtas Gaelic speaking festival. The festival won't allow us to hold the debate there, but we will find a venue nearby.We will make straw men with photos of the invited pro baby killing men on their faces. We can symbolically hang them afterwards.

Then it's time for the ceilidh.
 
@Declan can you guarantee the accuracy of the 4k clicks for Roc's udder abortion thread? I'm curious. Is there any geographical breakdown? Go raibh maith agat.
 
Reposted from Occidental Observer, from America Free Press.

Very funny. Devlin has a PhD in this stuff. And he's one of Our Guys.



What follows is an interview conducted by James Edwards with Dr. F. Roger Devlin, author of Sexual Utopia in Power.

* * *​

James Edwards: You have dedicated a great deal of your work to offering a sociobiological critique of radical feminism and the so-called sexual revolution of the 1960s, which you have argued is a utopian experiment that clashes with reality and leads to chaos. Why is this a topic that people should be more focused on?

Roger Devlin: Nations and races, like individuals, must perpetuate themselves sexually. But men are more inclined to focus on politics than on families, which they view as women’s natural concern. This works as long as women are in fact upholding the family by insisting on marriage and being faithful to their own vows. When they forsake that role to indulge in frivolous divorce and the chasing of sexual excitement for its own sake, men have no choice but to step in and restore order. This is difficult for us, both because most men do not understand women very well and because we have an extremely strong natural bias in their favor.

Edwards: Today’s society suffers from a lack of morals, confused sexual roles, high divorce and celibacy rates, childlessness, and widespread unhappiness, which you contend is linked to the breakdown of monogamy. In what ways are monogamy, family, and sexual discipline essential for societal stability?

Devlin: European man is a K-selected organism, to use the evolutionary terminology. This means that he is not very fertile, but invests heavily in the offspring he does have. A family with a father in residence is the necessary setting for such investment, which includes the transmission of a complex civilizational patrimony. The breakdown of stable pair-bonding cheats children of this inheritance and amounts to a return to barbarism.

Edwards: You point out that the welfare state, no-fault divorce, and affirmative-action feminism have basically turned the government into a substitute husband for millions of women. When did the West really start down this path—women’s suffrage, the pill, or something even earlier? And is there any historical precedent for a civilization surviving this level of sexual disorder?

Devlin: No, civilization may have begun with the imposition of monogamous marriage and will not survive its abolition. Sexual liberalization and female “equality” are symptoms of a society that had enjoyed too much prosperity for too long. When mere survival is a difficult challenge, everyone understands the importance of family solidarity and mutual duties. When times get easy, people turn to individual self-realization. Women’s suffrage, for example, was a shift from viewing the family as the basic unit of society to individualism: it is a luxury, and in no sense a matter of justice.

Edwards: Interestingly, your perspectives on this issue challenge both feminist and mainstream conservative views. How so?

Devlin: Men understand their own sexual nature, but not that of women. Male traditionalists are, therefore, inclined to assume that liberating sex means liberating men’s desires at women’s expense. Hence the conservative press is filled with endless sanctimonious denunciations of young men as predators. In fact, anthropologists have long known that in primitive hunter-gatherer societies where monogamy is not enforced, 60% of men are unable to become fathers. Nature puts women, not men, in charge of mating, and whenever they are liberated from monogamy, they simply mate with the highest-status men. Monogamous marriage exists not to restrict the amount of sex men are able to get, but precisely to provide sex (and families) for as many men as possible. For non-elite men the sexual revolution has meant not more sex but a greater difficulty, or even an outright impossibility, of finding a wife. This is one of the best-kept secrets of the past half-century due to men’s reluctance to complain about it.

Edwards: You’ve noted that we now live in a world that offers promiscuity for the few and loneliness for the many. Who really loses the most in this new order?

Devlin: Both men and women lose out, but it is children who lose the most, in the form of fatherlessness. Until we initiated this great experiment of sexual liberation, we had no idea just how important fathers were to the proper development of children. Nearly every social pathology you can name is exacerbated by fatherlessness. And fatherlessness is overwhelmingly due not to men being irresponsible deadbeat dads (as the welfare state falsely claims) but to women indulging in two vices: 1) sex outside of marriage and 2) frivolous divorce.
 
Edwards: Let’s talk about the campus rape hysteria you dissect so brilliantly. We’re told there is an epidemic of sexual assault on college campuses, yet the statistics you cite tell a completely different story. Is this whole narrative just a weapon to demonize normal male sexuality and justify more anti-male policies?

Devlin: Much of it is exactly that, driven by lesbians in women’s studies programs. Young women are impressionable, and the campus lesbians want them fearing and mistrusting men. Women’s studies is a radical and destructive political and sexual movement, not a legitimate field of academic study, and it needs to be abolished (not reformed). The narrative of young men as ruthless predators, by the way, is virtually identical whether produced by man-hating lesbian feminists or male traditionalists.

It might also help to inform young women that throwing themselves at the handsomest guy on campus is not the route to love and “commitment.” It should be obvious that if women insist on exceptionally attractive mates, they will be forced to share them; this is due to simple arithmetic, and not to men being scoundrels.

Edwards: No white nation in the world currently enjoys replacement level fertility. How does everything we have been discussing tie into the demographic decline we talk about so often — the falling birthrates among our people?

Devlin: Where men are in charge, women have babies; where women are in charge, they fornicate and abort — as we have learned by putting women in charge for a few decades. The solution should be obvious: put men back in charge of the family! Women may be left free to choose a husband, but only subject to two constraints: 1) that the man not already have been chosen by another woman, and 2) that they stick to their choice for life — and not just until they get bored or imagine they could do better on a second try (seldom true in any case).

Sexual equality in the workplace simultaneously lowers men’s wages by increasing the supply of labor, and raises women’s expectations of how much a man ought to earn in order to be a “good provider.” Moreover, the women who best succeed in the world of work are those who can suppress their natural femininity and remain childless. It is thus a complete disaster for Western civilization. Sexual discrimination in employment should be not merely legal but mandatory.
 

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