Andrew Gold Tackles The Taboo Topic Of Race Realism

[The Equalizer]

I asked you about the existsnce of God and drew a blank.

I thought Santa was more in your intellectual range and would get a a response. I was right!

Again, you're not making any sense - there's no context, which is a recurrent theme with you (as well as being a low IQ trait).

We all know that Santa Claus doesn't exist.

As for God? I don't know. I am the same as the vast majority of atheists - an agnostic atheist.

 

[Roc_]

Most of the arguments used to deny the group personalities of races can be used also to deny the existence of personality on an individual level.

Total lie.

Here's a mob for instance that based their mob actions on their ideas about a "group personality" allegedly possessed by black people.


View: https://x.com/AfricanArchives/status/2080005006002966807

If they had allowed him his humanity, a unique personality, that mob could not have done what they did.

Plus ca change...

 

[The Equalizer]

Folks, it's worth remembering that the Jewish ADL - Anti-Defamation League, was founded on a Jew being "defamed" after he raped and murdered a young white girl (Irish as it happens).

The Jewish paedophile, rapist and murderer was sprung from jail and lynched. Thanks be to God.

 

[Roc_]

Why don't you ever educate yourself about topics you're going to shitpost your halfwit opinions on.

The Leo Frank Case Research Library – Information on the 1913 bludgeoning, rape, strangulation and mutilation of Mary Phagan and the subsequent trial, appeals and mob lynching of Leo Frank in 1915.

Instead all you do is you get soundbites from the likes of Morgosh, Collett and Woods.

 

[The Equalizer]

No one needs to check your source (it'll be Jewish)

The (anti-white) ADL was founded around a Jewish paedophile, rapist and murderer of a little white girl.

Let that sink in.

 

[Declan]

@Declan
If you're stuck for moderators I'll give it a shot for a bit.
The trolling and baiting here is making a show of the place.
I'll be fair, but I'll end the bullshit.

Things are much better since I got rid of that hoor Wolf. But yes, maybe it is time for a new beginning

 

[Haven]

Again, you're not making any sense - there's no context, which is a recurrent theme with you (as well as being a low IQ trait).

We all know that Santa Claus doesn't exist.

As for God? I don't know. I am the same as the vast majority of atheists - an agnostic atheist.

Theres lots of context here, you are just flailing now.

Again, when you say "Why do you deny race exists using the existence of race as your argument?", thats much the same as someone saying "Why do you deny God/Santa exists using the existence of God/Santa as your argument?"

So what you say makes no sense.

Race as a concept has been around a long time. It exists as an idea. Thats why we can talk about it even while it has no biological basis in DNA to it.

The human genome is actually remarkably uniform compared to other animal species. Its an outlier. Homo Sapiens could not be a worse candidate to support the idea of human subspecies and the like.

Understanding Human Genetic Variation - NIH Curriculum Supplement Series - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[Roc_]

Race as a concept has been around a long time. It exists as an idea.

Exactly.

Carl Linnaeus (1707-1778) divided the human species into four main regional and skin-color-based varieties in his work Systema Naturae: Americanus, Europaeus, and Asiaticus. He paired these physical groups with specific skin tones, behavioral traits, and bodily humours.

Americanus (Americanus rubescens): Red skin, choleric temperament, upright posture; described as stubborn, free, and regulated by custom.
Europaeus (Europaeus albus): White skin, sanguine temperament, muscular build; described as gentle, inventive, and governed by laws.
Asiaticus (Asiaticus fuscus / luridus): Sallow or yellow skin, melancholic temperament, stiff build; described as severe, greedy, and ruled by opinions.
Africanus (Africanus niger): Black skin, phlegmatic temperament, relaxed build; described as crafty, lazy, and governed by caprice.

Thats why we can talk about it even while it has no biological basis in DNA to it.

Exactly.

The previous racial theories could no longer account for the facts that molecular genetic science revealed.

Facts that as Dawkins put it, "may be surprising to some people when you consider that races look so different to our eyes."

Facts that are un-intuitive - facts like that "Two people from Ethiopia and Namibia will be more different to each other at a genetic level than either one of them is to a white European"!!

Or as even Dawkins attempts to communicate about his science, "... human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed. Genetic and phenotypic variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasise in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type...".

Which is obviously completely counter to the three hundred year old scheme of Linnaeus.

But some people are just unable to disbelieve what their eyes tell them, they are unable to deal with anything at all abstract. They just can't deal with anything like that, in fact this thread evidences that to try and deal with it they simply revert to familiar comforting phrases.

 

[Agobard Admirer]

No one needs to check your source (it'll be Jewish)

The (anti-white) ADL was founded around a Jewish paedophile, rapist and murderer of a little white girl.

Let that sink in.

I am not sure if it is Jewish or not but the site is fair and contains a lot of material suggesting the guilt of Leo Frank and the mendacity of organized Jewry surrounding the case.

 

[Roc_]

I am not sure if it is Jewish or not but the site is fair and contains a lot of material suggesting the guilt of Leo Frank and the mendacity of organized Jewry surrounding the case.

It came up top of the search results for me and seemed like a fair resource to do some actual research.

But now I see on account of your post that that particular website is in fact registered to Kevin Strom, a well-known American neo-Nazi who has had significant clout and influence on the American white supremacist movement. Also a chap convicted of possessing child pornography a few years ago (he has gone quiet since).

Looking further into it I see there has been a massive push by the white supremacist movement, getting their Jambo acolytes to "discuss" this old case online, and they have set up a multitude of similar websites towards this.

So no surprise Jambo bleats about it, bringing it on here.

* leofrank.info, leofrank.org and maryphagan.info were all registered within days of each other in 2010 using the same company: Mesh Digital, in Surrey, England. John de Nugent also involved in these sites.

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[The Equalizer]

I am not sure if it is Jewish or not but the site is fair and contains a lot of material suggesting the guilt of Leo Frank and the mendacity of organized Jewry surrounding the case.

Naturally I assumed it was cherry-picked. Turns out he didn't even fucken read it

 

[The Equalizer]

It came up top of the search results for me and seemed like a fair resource to do some actual research.

But now I see on account of your post that that particular website is in fact registered to Kevin Strom, a well-known American neo-Nazi who has had significant clout and influence on the American white supremacist movement. Also a chap convicted of possessing child pornography a few years ago (he has gone quiet since).

You're some clown

Looking further into it I see there has been a massive push by the white supremacist movement, getting their Jambo acolytes to "discuss" this old case online, and they have set up a multitude of similar websites towards this.

LOL @ this old case

So no surprise Jambo bleats about it, bringing it on here.

* leofrank.info, leofrank.org and maryphagan.info were all registered within days of each other in 2010 using the same company: Mesh Digital, in Surrey, England. John de Nugent also involved in these sites.

.

 

[The Equalizer]

Theres lots of context here, you are just flailing now.

Again, when you say "Why do you deny race exists using the existence of race as your argument?", thats much the same as someone saying "Why do you deny God/Santa exists using the existence of God/Santa as your argument?"

Does anyone know WTF Haven is talking about?

Provide an argument for God/Santa not existing in which you say that God/Santa does exist.

So what you say makes no sense.

Race as a concept has been around a long time. It exists as an idea. Thats why we can talk about it even while it has no biological basis in DNA to it.

The human genome is actually remarkably uniform compared to other animal species. Its an outlier. Homo Sapiens could not be a worse candidate to support the idea of human subspecies and the like.

Understanding Human Genetic Variation - NIH Curriculum Supplement Series - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[Just Think]

Things are much better since I got rid of that hoor Wolf. But yes, maybe it is time for a new beginning

You should rename your site SarsfieldsVirtulAutisticClub.com.
Most of your members seem to be on that spectrum to one degree or another.
This thread is a prime example of that.

 

[The Equalizer]

You should rename your site SarsfieldsVirtulAutisticClub.com.
Most of your members seem to be on that spectrum to one degree or another.
This thread is a prime example of that.

If you're not interested in the subject then shoo.

And making you a mod would be a disaster, you would clearly seek to turn the site into an echo chamber with your level of contribution and bias.

 

[The Equalizer]

Exactly.

Carl Linnaeus (1707-1778) divided the human species into four main regional and skin-color-based varieties in his work Systema Naturae: Americanus, Europaeus, and Asiaticus. He paired these physical groups with specific skin tones, behavioral traits, and bodily humours.

Americanus (Americanus rubescens): Red skin, choleric temperament, upright posture; described as stubborn, free, and regulated by custom.
Europaeus (Europaeus albus): White skin, sanguine temperament, muscular build; described as gentle, inventive, and governed by laws.
Asiaticus (Asiaticus fuscus / luridus): Sallow or yellow skin, melancholic temperament, stiff build; described as severe, greedy, and ruled by opinions.
Africanus (Africanus niger): Black skin, phlegmatic temperament, relaxed build; described as crafty, lazy, and governed by caprice.


Exactly.

The previous racial theories could no longer account for the facts that molecular genetic science revealed.

Facts that as Dawkins put it, "may be surprising to some people when you consider that races look so different to our eyes."

Facts that are un-intuitive - facts like that "Two people from Ethiopia and Namibia will be more different to each other at a genetic level than either one of them is to a white European"!!

Or as even Dawkins attempts to communicate about his science, "... human populations are not — and never have been — biologically discrete, truly isolated, or fixed. Genetic and phenotypic variants are not distributed across our species in a manner that maps clearly onto socially-recognized racial groups. This is true even for aspects of human variation that we frequently emphasise in discussions of race, such as facial features, skin color and hair type...".

Which is obviously completely counter to the three hundred year old scheme of Linnaeus.

But some people are just unable to disbelieve what their eyes tell them,

What are your eyes telling you now?

they are unable to deal with anything at all abstract. They just can't deal with anything like that, in fact this thread evidences that to try and deal with it they simply revert to familiar comforting phrases.

 

[Haven]

Does anyone know WTF Haven is talking about?

Provide an argument for God/Santa not existing in which you say that God/Santa does exist.

Done.

God/Santa

See, you mentioned something that doesnt actually really exist other than an idea or concept.

Just like race.

 

[The Equalizer]

Done.

Where? When?

See, you mentioned something that doesnt actually really exist other than an idea or concept.

Just like race.

Your argument for race not existing involves race existing. Can you really not see that?

 

[The Equalizer]

Here is my Fact and Derivation post again -

Post in thread 'Andrew Gold Tackles The Taboo Topic Of Race Realism' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.co...-taboo-topic-of-race-realism.1152/post-166008

Tilly puts the derivation as follows..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QnoMSNSD5R0&t=67m32s

And I'm pretty sure @Roc_'s derivation was identical to Tilly's, back when he was (briefly) a category 2 race denier.

Obviously Tilly is not so retarded to say after that, ergo, race doesn't exist. She simply concludes from it (with no real explanation) that race is "wildly unimportant".

A category 1 race denier, like @Haven, cannot make those sort of arguments.. because they believe that there is no such thing as race, in the first place.

 

[Haven]

Where? When?


Your argument for race not existing involves race existing. Can you really not see that?

Then you are saying Santa exists by the exact same logic.

Nice one, Jambo.

 

[The Equalizer]

Then you are saying Santa exists by the exact same logic.

Nice one, Jambo.

I have never made an argument for Santa/God existing. Obviously I'm aware that Santa doesn't exist because it's a child's fairytale (hopefully there aren't any kids reading this ). I don't know whether God exists because, like most atheists, I am an agnostic atheist.

You remain a buffoon of monumental proportions.

 

[Haven]

I have never made an argument for Santa/God existing. Obviously I'm aware that Santa doesn't exist because it's a child's fairytale (hopefully there aren't any kids reading this ). I don't know whether God exists because, like most atheists, I am an agnostic atheist.

You remain a buffoon of monumental proportions.

Its the same logic, race, Santa, God.

Its possibly the stupidest thing you have ever posted here.

 

[The Equalizer]

Its the same logic,

That appears to be a rather foreign concept to you, or, there's logic and there's Haven logic.

You honestly appear to be quite significantly mentally retarded.

race, Santa, God.

Its possibly the stupidest thing you have ever posted here.

 

[Haven]

That appears to be a rather foreign concept to you, or, there's logic and there's Haven logic.

You honestly appear to be quite significantly mentally retarded.

As I said, this is possibly the stupidest argument you have made here.

And you continue to lack the basic understanding to see how stupid it is.

Amazeballs. Truely.

 

[The Equalizer]

Race doesn't exist and here's why:

"Many individuals may be more genetically similar to members of other RACES than to some members of their OWN." - Haven

 

[Haven]

Race doesn't exist and here's why:

"Many individuals may be more genetically similar to members of other RACES than to some members of their OWN." - Haven

As I said, race exists as a concept. Sometime in the past some humans decided to group people as such.

But those groupings have no genetic basis. As I have pointed out repeatedly.

 

[The Equalizer]

As I said, race exists as a concept. Sometime in the past some humans decided to group people as such.

But those groupings have no genetic basis. As I have pointed out repeatedly.

"Many individuals may be more GENETICALLY similar to members of other RACES than to some members of their OWN." - Haven

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

^^
Could you please delete that picture Sir?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Delete it you fucking idiot

 

[The Equalizer]

^^
Could you please delete that picture Sir?

It's a laughing meme.

I find Haven's (ongoing) stupidity hilarious

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I don't give a fuck what you find hilarious.

I don't want Negroes, Nigresses or Niglets on my screen.

What if someone walked by?

 

[The Equalizer]

I don't give a fuck what you find hilarious.

I don't want Negroes, Nigresses or Niglets on my screen.

What if someone walked by?

In the Travelodge?

 

[Haven]

"Many individuals may be more GENETICALLY similar to members of other RACES than to some members of their OWN." - Haven

Yep. You really are a dope!

 

[Just Think]

If you're not interested in the subject then shoo.

And making you a mod would be a disaster, you would clearly seek to turn the site into an echo chamber with your level of contribution and bias.

The only way to describe how you and roc/haven go on is AUTISTIC.
Watching you pair go back and forward while getting absolutely nowhere is funny as fuck.

"You're a dope, No, you're a dope....You're a spastic, No, you're a spastic....You're bent, No, you're bent"

It reminds me of being in first year secondary school.
Grow up, you pair of stupid children.

 

[The Equalizer]

Yep. You really are a dope!

lol You still don't get it

If race doesn't exist, how are you defining race in your argument for race not existing? And, why would you even mention genetics?

 

[Haven]

lol You still don't get it

If race doesn't exist, how are you defining race in your argument for race not existing? And, why would you even mention genetics?

You said not to say "race" in inverted commas.

Race exists as an idea, you talk about it all the time.

But it has no genetic basis.

 

[Just Think]

Time this shit thread for retarded bunnies was put on ignore.

 

[The Equalizer]

You said not to say "race" in inverted commas.

Race exists as an idea, you talk about it all the time.

But it has no genetic basis.

Then how are you defining race in your argument?

"Many individuals may be more genetically similar to members of other RACES than to some members of their OWN." - Haven

 

[The Equalizer]

You said not to say "race" in inverted commas.

Incorrect.

Race exists as an idea, you talk about it all the time.

"Many individuals may be more genetically similar to members of other IDEAS than to some members of their own IDEA." - Haven

But it has no genetic basis.

 

[Haven]

Incorrect.

Correct.

Secondly, putting race in inverted commas (as you have above) isn't a get out of jail free card. You are saying this thing doesn't exist and I'm going to use it, the thing that doesn't exist, to show that it doesn't exist.

"Many individuals may be more genetically similar to members of other IDEAS than to some members of their own IDEA." - Haven

Are we allowed to openly manufacture quotes now?