Could Iran v Israel turn nuclear? A possible indication from the Occult/Masonic world

[Haven]

Are you, The New Ayatollah ? !

You'll never know Clarky!

But I'm probably the only forum member living in a country under daily missile attack (not Iran or Israel!).

 

[scolairebocht]

Well come on tell us what is happening then, even post a short video here?

 

[Mad as Fish]

I couldnt be arsed posting here anymore, with all the thread bans.

I actually live in the Gulf region and can give everyone the real story going on as these attacks come in, how they are being countered, etc.

But, I'm thinking, go fuck yourselves.

The feeling is mutual, but anyway, how is life under the kitchen table?

 

[Mad as Fish]

You'll never know Clarky!

But I'm probably the only forum member living in a country under daily missile attack (not Iran or Israel!).

Living thousands of miles away from the shite you drop here, you really are some type khunt.

Anyway, pop your coordinates up here and we'll pass them on to the Revolutionary Guards.

 

[Diarmuid]

Haven, can you confirm or deny:

1. Lots of Iranian missiles are getting through in the Gulf states.
2. They are solely directed at legitimate targets - kosher system military

Has there been much damage in Israel? There are contradictory reports. Supposedly Ben Gurion airport has been open the last few days, which suggests that the Iranians were not able to put it out of action.

 

[Wolf]

Are you, The New Ayatollah ? !

Told ye all it's a jew living in Tel Aviv but yiz didn't believe me...the posting hours gave it away.....
BTW, I was right about it monitoring the site too.

 

[Haven]

Living thousands of miles away from the shite you drop here, you really are some type khunt.

Shure Im in good company with Dec and Fishfuck.

Anyway, pop your coordinates up here and we'll pass them on to the Revolutionary Guards.

Go fuck yoursef MAF.

 

[Haven]

Haven, can you confirm or deny:

1. Lots of Iranian missiles are getting through in the Gulf states.
2. They are solely directed at legitimate targets - kosher system military

Has there been much damage in Israel? There are contradictory reports. Supposedly Ben Gurion airport has been open the last few days, which suggests that the Iranians were not able to put it out of action.

I have no idea about Israel other than what we all see in the news.

I could tell you about some of the Gulf counties...I've lived in two, including the one I'm in now. For others, I could not say.

But I wont fucking bother except to say we are getting more PTSD from the phone warning alerts than the interceptions. For now.

 

[Haven]

Told ye all it's a jew living in Tel Aviv but yiz didn't believe me...the posting hours gave it away.....
BTW, I was right about it monitoring the site too.

Just waiting for you to call in mod reinforcements.

 

[Wolf]

I don't know how many times it's been instructed not to quote or reply to me but it keeps on doing it @jpc
I see it's abusing other posters again too.
I'll say no more.
How embarrassing.

 

[Haven]

I don't know how many times it's been instructed not to quote or reply to me but it keeps on doing it @jpc
I see it's abusing other posters again too.
I'll say no more.
How embarrassing.

As predicted.

Ya can dish it out but you cant take it.

You were instructed by Dec not to refer to me in any way, not even to react to my posts. A rule you broke right away.

 

[Haven]

Lads, I expect @jpc to follow masters orders.

It could have been different, could tell you exactly whats going on here if only the mods werent such cucks.

 

[Perry]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ump-tehran-netanyahu-russia-live-updates.html wonder if this is true..."influencers" in Dubai being paid to say its all good - nothing to see here? Irish times will be along with a gushing piece of how wonderful Dubai is this time of the year - if you can ignore the explosions and the deadly uncertainty as to what the future will bring. I wonder are the "Dubai Porta Potty" parties still taking place...look it up...it disgusting.....

 

[Mad as Fish]

Shure Im in good company with Dec and Fishfuck.



Go fuck yoursef MAF.

They don't drop whatever crap they are instructed to on here but offer intelligent contributions, quite distinct from your mindless propaganda.

 

[Diarmuid]

Hey guys, ba ceart duinn a bheith deas agus beasach le Haven.

It must be a shock to spend all those years mocking the Palestinian and Covid vax dead and to suddenly realise that Uncle Sam and Uncle Shlomo cannot fully protect you.

Haven, how's your spiritual life getting on? Ready to meet your maker? All of us should contemplate our own inevitable death occasionally.

Your reply hints that no missiles have actually landed in your country.

BTW, Haven, this is a great opportunity to create sympathy for the Israelis. Us white Christian Irish are notoriously empathetic. Give it a try

 

[Mad as Fish]

Told ye all it's a jew living in Tel Aviv but yiz didn't believe me...the posting hours gave it away.....
BTW, I was right about it monitoring the site too.

It's sounding like it's shitting itself, good to hear, for while he's at it he can reflect upon the fear and misery he helped inflict upon others during covid.

Karma can be a beautiful thing at times.

 

[Declan]

I couldnt be arsed posting here anymore, with all the thread bans.

I actually live in the Gulf region and can give everyone the real story going on as these attacks come in, how they are being countered, etc.

But, I'm thinking, go fuck yourselves.

My nephew is in Dubai.

Would you quit crying . You are on this thread and what other story is worthwhile at the moment.

So go out and post a video of a missile flying around or something useful

 

[Haven]

My nephew is in Dubai.

Would you quit crying . You are on this thread and what other story is worthwhile at the moment.

So go out and post a video of a missile flying around or something useful

Ah dont be so butthurt Dec.

 

[Wolf]

Best not forget about the little Neo-Nazi in Ukraine during these troubled times.

Why Zelensky should fear Trump’s war with Iran​

The outcome could redefine US dominance – and leave Europe and Ukraine scrambling
By Valentin Loginov, a Russian journalist specializing in political processes, sociology and international relations

RT composite. © Getty Images/Eduardo Parra; Contributor

Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky and his European partners have plenty of reasons to closely monitor the situation in the Middle East.
It’s not just because US President Donald Trump is wasting valuable air defense missiles that the EU could have purchased for Ukraine. (Kiev has already voiced concerns about a shortage of American weapons.)
Nor is it because the White House may lose interest in resolving the Ukraine conflict as the war with Iran drags on (something Brussels is worried about). During a meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on March 3 in Washington, Trump dismissed these insinuations, affirming that the Ukraine crisis remains a top priority for his administration.
The real reason for concern in Kiev and Brussels lies on a broader geopolitical level: The fate of Trump’s foreign policy doctrine is currently being decided in the Middle East. Essentially, the outcome of this conflict will determine whether the US plunges into a new, even more hawkish phase defined by a ‘might makes right’ mentality, or returns to a path of moderate peacemaking, which Trump advocated during his campaign but seemed to abandon with surprising ease.

Why did Kiev support the dismantling of the ‘rules-based order’?​

Trump’s “large-scale military operation” against Iran – launched unilaterally by the White House in defiance of international law and the UN – should be perceived by Kiev as “unprovoked aggression.” This view is underscored by the fact that even the Pentagon acknowledged there was no evidence that Tehran was preparing attacks on Israel or US bases in the region.

In contrast, Russia, prior to launching its military operation in Ukraine, actively urged the guarantors of the Minsk agreements – France and Germany – to take notice of the buildup of Ukrainian forces near the borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and the significant spike in shelling of these territories in February 2022.
Even the Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) of the OSCE recognized that by mid-February 2022, the intensity of hostilities in Donbass had reached peak levels similar to those before the last ceasefire in 2020.
According to the OSCE report from February 19, 2022, “The SMM recorded 222 ceasefire violations in Donetsk region, including 135 explosions. In the previous reporting period, there were 189 violations... In Lugansk Region, the mission observed 648 violations, including 519 explosions.”
Ignoring his own aggression against the Russian population in Donbass that led up to the Russian offensive, Zelensky has spent the last four years cultivating an image of Ukraine as a victim. Logically, one would expect him to also consider Iran a victim of ‘unprovoked aggression’. But Zelensky chose a different strategy.
On the eve of the US-Israeli strike on Tehran, Zelensky claimed that the Iranian people “want to change the current regime.” While it is true that there are people in the Islamic Republic advocating for political change, as evidenced by the protests in January, Zelensky seems to have forgotten that his own approval rating was barely above 17% just before the start of the Russian military operation, according to the Kiev International Institute. Did that mean the Ukrainian public could have gotten rid of an unpopular president who would soon come to disregard the Ukrainian Constitution and stay in power for an indefinite period of time?
On February 28, following the US and Israeli attack on Iran, Zelensky revealed a personal motive for supporting Trump’s actions, arguing that Iran has backed Russia in the Ukraine conflict.
Zelensky’s contradictory stance on the war with Iran goes beyond the fact that his power hinges on the duration of the conflict with Russia. The problem isn’t just the fact that the Ukrainian military relies on European purchases of American weapons. The deeper issue lies in the changing social dynamics within Ukraine: The people are genuinely exhausted and eager to put an end to the war, as evidenced by increasing civil resistance against forced mobilization.

To navigate the delicate balance between maintaining his grip on power and creating the illusion of considering public interests, Zelensky has to keep some sort of dialogue open with Russia. In the current negotiation process, the US has become the only party Moscow is prepared to engage with regarding the principles for ending the conflict. A complete loss of the US as a partner would mean the collapse of any dialogue with Moscow, effectively dismissing the last chance for a diplomatic resolution.

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If the conflict in Iran ends with some sort of tangible success for the US, Washington’s tone towards Europe (and perhaps even Russia) will shift when it comes to addressing the situation in Ukraine.
Conversely, if the military campaign yields no clear results, non-conservatives may suffer a long-lasting defeat, which would also impact the Ukraine crisis.
Regardless of the outcome, the lessons learned from the conflict in Iran will undoubtedly influence the shifting power dynamics in Europe.

 

[Diarmuid]

Hey Haven, what do you think of the theory that the war is mostly fake? Lots of bangs and smoke and war talk, but not many people actually hurt or injured.

You say you are there. You claim to know about weapons and stuff. What do you think? Real war or fake war?

This theory suggests that the ayatollahs are secretly Masonic Jews and are working with the Israelis to create a drama. Apparently the ayatollahs have nice properties in London, one of them overlooking the Israeli embassy.

They say that when the enemy bombs the civilian population, they become more nationalistic and supportive of their government. Imagine if the Israelis become even more nationlist! The mind boggles.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Hey Haven, what do you think of the theory that the war is mostly fake? Lots of bangs and smoke and war talk, but not many people actually hurt or injured.

You say you are there. You claim to know about weapons and stuff. What do you think? Real war or fake war?

This theory suggests that the ayatollahs are secretly Masonic Jews and are working with the Israelis to create a drama. Apparently the ayatollahs have nice properties in London, one of them overlooking the Israeli embassy.

They say that when the enemy bombs the civilian population, they become more nationalistic and supportive of their government. Imagine if the Israelis become even more nationlist! The mind boggles.

You are labouring under the assumption that Tank has the willingness, or even ability, to hold an opinion that doesn't accord with the narrative set by his paymasters. It is purely a tool rather than an independently minded individual.

 

[Wolf]

Russian and US envoys discuss Iran oil crisis​

Washington is starting to understand the key role of Russian energy in global stability, Kirill Dmitriev has said

Kirill Dmitriev and Steve Witkoff © Sputnik / Kristina Kormilitsyna

Russia and the US have held talks over the ongoing oil crisis triggered by the US-Israeli war on Iran, Kirill Dmitriev, an investment envoy to President Vladimir Putin, has announced.
In a post on Telegram on Thursday, Dmitriev said he had traveled to the US at Putin’s request to attend a working group meeting on economic cooperation between Moscow and Washington.
The sides, he said, discussed “potential projects” that could help restore Russian-American relations, along with “the current crisis in global energy markets.”
“Today many countries, above all the US, are beginning to better understand the key, system-forming role of Russian oil and gas in ensuring global economic stability, as well as the ineffectiveness and destructive nature of sanctions against Russia,” he added.

In a separate post on X, he thanked US special envoy Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner – President Donald Trump’s son-in-law – and White House senior adviser Josh Gruenbaum for a “productive meeting.”

Witkoff also confirmed the talks, which took place in Florida, adding that “the teams discussed a variety of topics and agreed to stay in touch.”
The discussions followed a phone call between Trump and Putin on Monday, which covered several issues, including the Middle East conflict. Moscow described the call as “businesslike, frank and constructive,” while Trump called the conversation “very good.”

The US and Israel launched coordinated strikes on Iran on February 28, prompting Iranian retaliatory attacks across the region. The crisis led to a de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz – a route that carries roughly one-fifth of the world’s daily oil supply – sending oil prices surging nearly 50% to almost $120 per barrel.

Although the rally eased after several countries agreed to release strategic reserves, prices rose again to above $100 on Thursday.
On Monday, Putin said that Moscow had “repeatedly warned that attempts to destabilize the situation in the Middle East would inevitably jeopardize” global energy supply and cautioned that Hormuz oil flows risked stopping entirely.

He also stressed that Russia would be open to resuming oil and gas supplies to the EU, a proposal dismissed by EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who warned that a return to Russian energy would be a “strategic blunder.”

 

[Mad as Fish]

Well here we are two weeks in and the basic question looms ever larger - Why?

 

[Mad as Fish]

Russian and US envoys discuss Iran oil crisis​

Washington is starting to understand the key role of Russian energy in global stability, Kirill Dmitriev has said

Kirill Dmitriev and Steve Witkoff © Sputnik / Kristina Kormilitsyna

Russia and the US have held talks over the ongoing oil crisis triggered by the US-Israeli war on Iran, Kirill Dmitriev, an investment envoy to President Vladimir Putin, has announced.
In a post on Telegram on Thursday, Dmitriev said he had traveled to the US at Putin’s request to attend a working group meeting on economic cooperation between Moscow and Washington.
The sides, he said, discussed “potential projects” that could help restore Russian-American relations, along with “the current crisis in global energy markets.”
“Today many countries, above all the US, are beginning to better understand the key, system-forming role of Russian oil and gas in ensuring global economic stability, as well as the ineffectiveness and destructive nature of sanctions against Russia,” he added.

In a separate post on X, he thanked US special envoy Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner – President Donald Trump’s son-in-law – and White House senior adviser Josh Gruenbaum for a “productive meeting.”

Witkoff also confirmed the talks, which took place in Florida, adding that “the teams discussed a variety of topics and agreed to stay in touch.”
The discussions followed a phone call between Trump and Putin on Monday, which covered several issues, including the Middle East conflict. Moscow described the call as “businesslike, frank and constructive,” while Trump called the conversation “very good.”

The US and Israel launched coordinated strikes on Iran on February 28, prompting Iranian retaliatory attacks across the region. The crisis led to a de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz – a route that carries roughly one-fifth of the world’s daily oil supply – sending oil prices surging nearly 50% to almost $120 per barrel.

Although the rally eased after several countries agreed to release strategic reserves, prices rose again to above $100 on Thursday.
On Monday, Putin said that Moscow had “repeatedly warned that attempts to destabilize the situation in the Middle East would inevitably jeopardize” global energy supply and cautioned that Hormuz oil flows risked stopping entirely.

He also stressed that Russia would be open to resuming oil and gas supplies to the EU, a proposal dismissed by EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who warned that a return to Russian energy would be a “strategic blunder.”

He also stressed that Russia would be open to resuming oil and gas supplies to the EU, a proposal dismissed by EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who warned that a return to Russian energy would be a “strategic blunder.”

So speaks the wench who has been pushing the green agenda and recently had to admit that Europe dumping nuclear power was a mistake. She is beyond parody

 

[Diarmuid]

Well here we are two weeks in and the basic question looms ever larger - Why?

US Senator Chris Murphy said it after a shocking private briefing: Israel made us do it.

The Israelis are also giving orders to Simon Harris and almost all of Dail Eireann. Even big brave Jim O'Callaghan is facilitating the war against Iran. Fillean an feall ag an fealltoir.

Haven, tuigim do sceal anois. We must be nice to Haven. He is subject to censorship. If the Emir of Dubai finds out he is reporting Iranian missile strikes to the Sarsfield's forum, he will hand him over to the Kinnahans to be skinned alive.(Funny how Dubai protects Irish murderers and how friendly the Irish politicians are with Dubai. Is there some connection?)

We understand why you can't report the truth. Just keep careful notes and when you get to a free country it will make a great book.

 

[Tiger]

Lads, I expect @jpc to follow masters orders.

It could have been different, could tell you exactly whats going on here if only the mods werent such cucks.

In fairness, it doesn’t sound like it’s anything particularly dramatic. Phone warnings. Meh.

 

[jpc]

Read it.

Nick Griffin (@nickgriffin544956)

A fine piece by Morgoth. My only reservation is the idea that the West's idiot/bought/paedophile elite are nervous that the immolation of Iran will anger Muslim colonists here. Frankly, it should do, but 90% of them are Sunni so, despite that fact that Iran has done more for the resistance to...

substack.com

 

[Haven]

In fairness, it doesn’t sound like it’s anything particularly dramatic. Phone warnings. Meh.

We have become very familiar with the sound of explosions overhead, which you can also feel when at home or inside buildings like malls. The problem is that the alerts dont always come in advance of the attacks. And theres a specific screech sound to the alerts thats becoming unforgetable.

 

[Diarmuid]

The problem is that the alerts dont always come in advance of the attacks.

Superb writing. Not a word wasted. And very funny too! It will be a great book.

Is it possible that the noises and vibrations and lights in the sky that you note are generated by something other than Iranian missiles and Dubai anti-missiles? Noise and lights are what you report.

You note explosions "overhead". Nothing at ground level?

"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

 

[Wolf]

Well here we are two weeks in and the basic question looms ever larger - Why?

Follow the money.

 

[Wolf]

Superb writing. Not a word wasted. And very funny too! It will be a great book.

Is it possible that the noises and vibrations and lights in the sky that you note are generated by something other than Iranian missiles and Dubai anti-missiles? Noise and lights are what you report.

You note explosions "overhead". Nothing at ground level?

"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

Let's hope Tel Aviv gets nuked.

 

[The Fifth View]

Let's hope Tel Aviv gets nuked.

If that happens we really are entering the final days!

 

[Haven]

Superb writing. Not a word wasted. And very funny too! It will be a great book.

Is it possible that the noises and vibrations and lights in the sky that you note are generated by something other than Iranian missiles and Dubai anti-missiles? Noise and lights are what you report.

You note explosions "overhead". Nothing at ground level?

"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."

Because where I am, we can see the interceptors go up and can see the results against the missiles.

Im not quite sure how that can be faked unless they are shooting these multimillion dollar Patriots for shits and giggles. The result is on the ground...missile parts everywhere which Ive personally seen. And at least one close miss from an expended missile in a residential compound 500m down the road from us.

 

[The Fifth View]

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/2032181184696840588

 

[The Fifth View]

I saw an image online of what looked like an Israeli uniform with a badge showing the Israeli flag and a map underneath that people were calling “Greater Israel.” I honestly had never seen anything like that before and didn’t realise patches like that were worn, so it surprised me.

From what I’ve been reading, the map isn’t supposed to be the modern borders of Israel, but more the older or biblical idea of the Land of Israel, which some people refer to as Greater Israel. I didn’t know that kind of symbol was ever used on badges, which is why it stood out to me when I saw it.

I wonder if this is something they want to achieve, or if it’s just recognising what they see as their old borders.

 

[Diarmuid]

Im not quite sure how that can be faked unless they are shooting these multimillion dollar Patriots for shits and giggles

The only reason we know they are multimillion patriot missiles is because the Yanks and the Iranians say they are. Perhaps they are cheap rockets designed to explode in the air and leave lots of missile fragments on the ground. Perhaps the interceptions you see are choreographed?

Unsure what you mean by a near miss from a expended missile. If the missile was expended, there would be nothing left. Do you mean a near miss from a dud missile that did not explode?

 

[Haven]

Read it.

Nick Griffin (@nickgriffin544956)

A fine piece by Morgoth. My only reservation is the idea that the West's idiot/bought/paedophile elite are nervous that the immolation of Iran will anger Muslim colonists here. Frankly, it should do, but 90% of them are Sunni so, despite that fact that Iran has done more for the resistance to...

substack.com

Yep.

That take is fucking retarded. Honestly you are all fucking hopelessly stupid.

Its about China.


View: https://youtu.be/wupwKXGd54g?si=zHXFivTOb828gVma

 

[Haven]

The only reason we know they are multimillion patriot missiles is because the Yanks and the Iranians say they are. Perhaps they are cheap rockets designed to explode in the air and leave lots of missile fragments on the ground. Perhaps the interceptions you see are choreographed?

Unsure what you mean by a near miss from a expended missile. If the missile was expended, there would be nothing left. Do you mean a near miss from a dud missile that did not explode?

No.

And no.

Id love to post footage and photos. But I cant trust you cunts.

When its over, or I get out of here, I may explain all. Depends on @jpc and @Wolf getting permanatly fucked off the forum.

Its fun to see you tie yourself up in knots trying to maintain your own reality though. Especially considering what we are actually experiencing.

 

[Diarmuid]

Its fun to see you tie yourself up in knots trying to maintain your own reality though. Especially considering what we are actually experiencing.h

Nil me ach ag cuir ceisteanna. Sin a mheid.

Obviously, I hope the Iranian missiles are real and that they are destroying Epstein class assets. But I have an open mind, as should you. Your reports can be explained by a fake war theory as well as by a real war.

 

[Haven]

Nil me ach ag cuir ceisteanna. Sin a mheid.

Obviously, I hope the Iranian missiles are real and that they are destroying Epstein class assets. But I have an open mind, as should you. Your reports can be explained by a fake war theory as well as by a real war.

Except we can see it.

The missile threat is dying off here though. We can see it dropping off. The drone threat can go for a long time though. But that is being countered. The Ukrainians can name their price right now.

On a personal level, I feel the personal risk is dropping rapidly as long as Iran stays conventional. The Gulf countries have not been provoked to attack Iran. So far.

So on a larger scale, its an economic war now. You are looking at a major recession, even a depression, if this doesnt stop.

You're fucked. Unless you're on the scratcher, mo chara?