European elections and locals.

[valamhic]

I hope you're not writing the job advertisements for your son Aul Lad.

The bollix does not even know the difference between controlled and uncontrolled migration.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Is there any point in me responding to his attack.

I don't think so.

I tried to be nice to him recently but he threw it back in my face.

He's a very angry man and doesn't possess any manners.

 

[Fam Shox]

your a good man idi --there are farmers who would be patient and train you if you could convince them you were up to it but at 53 they would work a younger man harder --sticking your head up a cows hole is not part of the job --wearing long gloves to your armpits and tying chains to the legs of a dead calf up a cows hole is .
i worked for a cattle vet when i was young for a while and i do not complain of my lot since --i would not stick their job for any money --most of them die young and dose themselves with their own antibiotics as you get every disease going and surgeons/consultants groan when they hear your a vet as vets do not survive generally as the initial antibiotics have no effect on them and it becomes too late to know what would save them .
bullocks in sheds will try and kill you if you are asleep and accidental nicks from syringes are part of the job .

Two Spanish girls I know invited me to their joint 30th last year, they asked me what age I was, I said guess, one said 36 and the other agreed. I'm about to pop out the back garden and do some isometrics with me hurley stick, wil be back playing junior C next year, I'm ready for battle all I hav to do now is give up the smokes.

 

[Fam Shox]

Has waters said anything

 

[scolairebocht]

John Waters has been eliminated, he was just 200 votes short of Hermann Kelly, and that was the killer blow.

You know its true that Gildernew, for SF, virtually conceded the seat, but why with a running mate still there? She seems to be another person coming from the UK system obsessed with 'splitting the vote', she is probably mad that she has a running mate at all.

 

[clarke-connolly]

And down from 49 council seats to 23 .........is that a green shoot

Foot Shooting ! ! !

 

[scolairebocht]

Sorry Waters was only 100 votes behind Kelly...

 

[Declan]

Eater would not get enough votes anyway, but it would be nice to end up above more than he did.

he hard will go for the GE

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Although this post is a while back and dated as the count proceeds, I am beginning to feel the same way. The Irish people used say "who else had we to vote for?" This time they had a clear choice with the NP and IFP, they chose Ming and Maria Walsh.

What voter education happens in the South? Are kids taught in school how to vote? Or just that they should. In the North you have 5 main parties Soft and Hard Nationalist, the same on the Unionist side and then Alliance, the supposedly middle ground. There's not alot of ways to go wrong in voting.

Looking at the South the multitude of parties is huge and is confusing even for me who watches politics. Like for example Independent Ireland, who did well in local elections and in contention for a Euro seat in Midlands North West. Are they a regular party with a leader or just a banner given to a group candidates who have no common themes. Likely Mulooly in MNW? He's independent but ex RTE.

So if you are coming to politics once every five years to vote and have little interest otherwise, the name recognition of the old parties is a serious advantage and new parties have uphill struggle in a generally disinterested population.

Another notable point is the decline in local journalism and newspapers, the numbers of staff in them and ambitious reporters who wouldn't be happy with a life time career in the Monaghan Standard. Add to that that most of the local papers are on government subsidy and will not stray beyond what is acceptable to their paymasters. Plus the phones that are permanently attached to people's hands that give news that is filtered. Do people even know what is happening in their areas, or who their neighbours are?

Did the Patriot parties distribute sample ballots with their election literature? I know its a huge cost but could be worth the investment over another policy leaflet come election time.

Perhaps the leaders of the various parties should come together and go an meet with Reps of the AfD and National Rally in France and see what advice they would give on professionalizing their parties.

This article gives a good insight how the National Rally used tiktok to get French people on board

The radical Right is winning on TikTok

unherd.com

Worth bearing in mind that 50% of the country didn't bother voting at all. and even less people voted in the locals. The real story would be that despite everything more people didnt bother than did. Have they become so disconnected from society that they apathetic to what happens or is it an active disengagement in the hope that if enough people ignore the system that it will collapse?

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

John Waters has been eliminated, he was just 200 votes short of Hermann Kelly, and that was the killer blow.

You know its true that Gildernew, for SF, virtually conceded the seat, but why with a running mate still there? She seems to be another person coming from the UK system obsessed with 'splitting the vote', she is probably mad that she has a running mate at all.

She was the running mate surely to the sitting SF MEP? How did McManus fuck up so much that the newbie SF outpolled him 2:1. Huge vote mis-management by SF there. Going on the First Preference Sf had enough for a seat but got greedy and thought they's nab two. Their overall vote is only marginally down on the last election.

 

[clarke-connolly]

Eater would not get enough votes anyway, but it would be nice to end up above more than he did.

he hard will go for the GE

Wha ?

 

[Esatdigiwank]

@Declan:
Who is Eater??

 

[Declan]

All are

 

[Declan]

Waters or Hermin, but we're focused on waters

 

[valamhic]

She was the running mate surely to the sitting SF MEP? How did McManus fuck up so much that the newbie SF outpolled him 2:1. Huge vote mis-management by SF there. Going on the First Preference Sf had enough for a seat but got greedy and thought they's nab two. Their overall vote is only marginally down on the last election.

It looks like it will be Druggie Luke Ming, Horsie Carbury, BIFO Cowan, Radical left M. Walsh and ex RTE man Mulooly. NP and IFP are finished leaving only the Irish Independent Party for us.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

John waters is still a champion in my eyes and should he declare for the general election we should help him , I know I will , I now have a mobile number for John

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

View: https://x.com/SteRedmondNP/status/1800805874681987268

 

[scolairebocht]

Yes Seekthefairland new candidates have a massive uphill struggle. Don't forget the financial situation as well, as far as I know its unique in Europe the degree to which the Irish state pays the Irish political parties, and the wages and expenses of TDs and even Councillors are greater than many countries.

Remember the voting system isn't complicated at the point of voting, you just mark in order of preference who you like, and most Irish people are very familiar with it. At the mechanics of vote management it can get very complicated but its also robust in the sense thats its actually difficult to mess up the will of the voters, via 'vote splitting ' etc.

Local media in Ireland is awesomely under the control of the State here, you just have to accept that you are in a full on Communist state at this stage.

 

[scolairebocht]

You know there is a great meme about Irish citizenship that was going around a while ago. This person comes to Ireland with three wishes. They get all money and housing etc etc, then for their last wish they want to become Irish. Then everything vanishes and they become poor again, because as Irish people they qualify now for nothing!

 

[Declan]

I think Maire Walsh is screwed,

this is my first real prediction of vourse, watch this space.

 

[clarke-connolly]

I think Maire Walsh is screwed,

this is my first real prediction of vourse, watch this space.

By Who ?

 

[Declan]

By Who ?

By anyone but my guess being the SF lady that already admitted failure

 

[Esatdigiwank]

This was part of Independent Socialist Declan Bree’s reaction to his election victory topping thr poll in Sligo town.
Taken from The Sligo Champion,,,

“
While some people have genuine concerns about the ways the government is handling the refugee & international protection process, this election has clearly shown that they do not wish to be in any way associated with racists or the far-right.

When l was elected Mayor last year l said how proud l was to be part of the Sligo community, a community which has a long & proud tradition of being warm, compassionate & empathic to those in need.

l am particularly proud of the people of Sligo today who have overwhelmingly rejected those who wish to sow the seeds of racist hatred in our community..”

Well the Plantation has not manifested itself in this county yet so it is very early days..

Sligo elected a total of 6 FF, 4 FG, 2 SF, 1 Labour & 5 Independents.

 

[scolairebocht]

The thing is too that many voted independent because they are not part of the system, yet as you can see some are just as bad as the party hacks.

 

[Fam Shox]

Sorry Waters was only 100 votes behind Kelly...

I got stick a few years back - maybe on the old site - over my criticism of John's barnet and g. O. D's barnet too. I'm not concerned with her barnet anymore, she can do what she wants with her hair now. The sad state of John's barnet is responsible for him losing this important election, and that's a fact. Mick Wallace is wondering why his vote is down, the reason is the exceptionally sorry state of his barnet. Waters is a fine looking man but let's himself down with the gruaig. He would look like sean connery if he cut the hair short and had my hairdresser Bruce do something nice with his sideburns and maybe a hint of a goatee. U say he came up 100 votes short. That is a sickener especially considering he would have gotten at least two or three thousand votes extra if he let me and Bruce at his barnet. I didn't vote for him myself on account of his hair and I'm not the only one. So in a way I'm responsible which is a sickener for me, but I do have a clear conscience all the same. There are lines I won't cross. Look at Maria walsh's barnet, it's epic, and the real reason why she romped home. If justin let me and Bruce do a makeover on him he would go far.

It's all so sad and all it needed was a pair of scissors.

 

[Professor]

It's all so sad and all it needed was a pair of scissors.

Tries for Jesus - Ends up as Barabbas

 

[Fam Shox]

Tries for Jesus - Ends up as Barabbas

Yes, it's tragic. I didn't vote for Maria walsh either in case u think I'd vote for someone on the merits of their barnet alone.

 

[valamhic]

Yes Seekthefairland new candidates have a massive uphill struggle. Don't forget the financial situation as well, as far as I know its unique in Europe the degree to which the Irish state pays the Irish political parties, and the wages and expenses of TDs and even Councillors are greater than many countries.

Remember the voting system isn't complicated at the point of voting, you just mark in order of preference who you like, and most Irish people are very familiar with it. At the mechanics of vote management it can get very complicated but its also robust in the sense thats its actually difficult to mess up the will of the voters, via 'vote splitting ' etc.

Local media in Ireland is awesomely under the control of the State here, you just have to accept that you are in a full on Communist state at this stage.

The system itself is not rigged in voting or counting. There is strict accounting from vote to finish of count. I agree with the rest.

 

[AUL LAD]

Sorry I am having a dyslexic moment- very publicly opposed. He basically agreed with Robert Taft who was the leader of the Republican Old Right that the Nuremberg trials were evil.

my uncle by marriage was born in 1 otto specter strasse in hamburg before the war his family were non observant Jews who married Germans .
he and his brother Walter escaped to London in the 1930s and he then worked for the allies as he scored the highest score in the BBC exams for high and common German --he could speak we think 11 languages and was expert in 3 .
because he scored the highest he was picked to translate at Nurenburg and met Goering and others .
i asked him was he the only Jewish person there and he was honest to a great degree and said we were all Jewish.
i said should the people who bombed a civilian city like Dresden which had no military or factory worth bombing --i said should they have been in Nurenburg and how about Nagasaki and Hiroshema , he was silent re this .
Goering arranged his own death only when it was clear that his evidence and the evidence of others would not matter --it was only a paper exercise to convert them from patriots fighting Zionist banking groups who wished to re enslave them and who owned their currency before hitler issued his own reichmarks to criminals .
""HITLERS GREATEST MISTAKE WAS LEAVING THE WORLD ECONOMIC SYSTEM .""
Churchill to lord boothby his private sec .

 

[AUL LAD]

The bollix does not even know the difference between controlled and uncontrolled migration.

thanks for that val its good to know where i stand with you --there is a pair of you in it ---- myles and yourself both of you compete for honors in your own field not occupied by anyone else thank god .
you have never failed to surprise me with your unusual take on things and i am not skilled enough to know where this philosophy comes from .
i feel reassured and comforted to be called a bollix by you --there is a certain elevation to a higher social state to be regarded as a bollix by such as yourself without ever knowing how i earned it -- thank you for the promotion.
and i know you are sensitive re this but should somebody moderate YOUR comments and where do they belong you who worry about moderation.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

What does Dan mean by "Eater"?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

If he cut the hair short and had my hairdresser Bruce do something nice with his sideburns and maybe a hint of a goatee.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how gay is Bruce?

 

[Declan]

I got stick a few years back - maybe on the old site - over my criticism of John's barnet and g. O. D's barnet too. I'm not concerned with her barnet anymore, she can do what she wants with her hair now. The sad state of John's barnet is responsible for him losing this important election, and that's a fact. Mick Wallace is wondering why his vote is down, the reason is the exceptionally sorry state of his barnet. Waters is a fine looking man but let's himself down with the gruaig. He would look like sean connery if he cut the hair short and had my hairdresser Bruce do something nice with his sideburns and maybe a hint of a goatee. U say he came up 100 votes short. That is a sickener especially considering he would have gotten at least two or three thousand votes extra if he let me and Bruce at his barnet. I didn't vote for him myself on account of his hair and I'm not the only one. So in a way I'm responsible which is a sickener for me, but I do have a clear conscience all the same. There are lines I won't cross. Look at Maria walsh's barnet, it's epic, and the real reason why she romped home. If justin let me and Bruce do a makeover on him he would go far.

It's all so sad and all it needed was a pair of scissors.

Well said

 

[Declan]

The count in north west is s one of the best i ever saw and would have been better if John had gotten a short back and sides.

and wallace is a disgrace with his grey hair , that is leagues worse that John, who gets a small pass due to his intellect.

 

[Fam Shox]

On a scale of 1 to 10 how gay is Bruce?

Bruce broke the gay-o-meter when he went for a gayness test a few years ago. How and ever Bruce keeps himself to himself and hates the rainbow agenda. Bruce is about the soundest gay hairdresser called Bruce u cud ever meet.

 

[Declan]

Things will be looking good for michelle gildhergee after this count

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Things will be looking good for michelle gildhergee after this count

View: https://x.com/stephenirwin80/status/1801017180890210525

 

[SeekTheFairLand]

Things will be looking good for michelle gildhergee after this count

View: https://x.com/johnm150523/status/1801015473858867481

 

[Declan]

that person seems to be forgetting toibin

 

[valamhic]

Is Nationalist politics dead in Ireland, I suspect it is. It is dead and buried in England for sure?