HBO is airing pedophilia

[Declan]

There's absolutely no need for a scene such as the one originally posted i.e.a man in bed with a child, to be included in a series or film to achieve any of that. "Amazing comments". Only a moron would use that turn of phrase in the context of child sexual abuse and is indicative of the clowns involved in this.

I think you have summed it up well here. There is a lot of liberal mindset shythetalk as there is on other subjects. But the real objective here is a form of getting the camels nose u der the tent, or to set a precedent. And that is showing a little girl and an adult man engaged in a sex scene. (And some would say an unnatural sex scene)

So the Jerry's of this world will say, no, this is a good scene, blah blah blah.


They bottom line is,

I can go on Pornhub, BUT WOULD BE AFRAID TO WATCH SUCH A SCENE FOR FEAR OF ARREST .

But I and even children can watch it on TV.

(Unknown to me and most people)

 

[Jim Beam]

...there was a big eejit called Jim Beam. He thought he knew better than experts in the field of child abuse such as lawyers and law enforcement. He and his other mates spent several posts loudly complaining about a movie where a women documents the abuse she received as a child. Jim and his friends never thought how these comments made them a bit suspect themselves. The end.

If shit was wit, you'd be constipated.

Women or any person for that matter can document the abuse they receive for the benefit of highlighting the tactics used by sexual predators. There are many ways this can be achieved by film/ documentary makers or authors. The point you're missing is that mature adults/ decent people have a sense of balance or proportion as to how this can be achieved and can judge the point at which material or actions will result in the opposite, cross the line into perversion or cause extreme harm. The scene in the clip in the original post is one such example of where the line is crossed into perversion, it serves no other purpose, educational or otherwise.

That bit at the end of your failed attempt to be funny, about other people being suspects, there may come a point in your development into a mature adult when you'll resist the incessant urge to accuse others of what you yourself are being rightfully accused of. You are the only person supporting that disturbing scene's inclusion in this programme. At this stage if I said you were purple, you'd tell me I was purpler. It's a constant theme of your posts along with your inane pedantry.

 

[Esatdigiwank]

Anderson, its a movie about sexual abuse.

The Tale - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Tale movie review & film summary (2018) | Roger Ebert

The film is one long interrogation, not only from Jennifer the character's standpoint, but from a directorial standpoint.

www.rogerebert.com

So you’ve sat through all of it then?

 

[Declan]

Well I sat through the inter
view thathgerry linked and learned she could be a fruitcake. Inthe movie she has a scene arguing with her black boyfriend and she is a Buddhist. I would take her story with agrain of salt

 

[AUL LAD]

Director Jennifer Fox
Writer Jennifer Fox

why is nobody surprised that she is Jewish.

 

[Fishalt]

What Jerry fails to grasp is the cinematography of the scene, which is deliberately rendered in such a way as to make the scene seem 'Romantic' and not as he puts it 'Horrific' at all. The lighting is gentle, the dialogue exchanges between the child and the man are adult (absolutely demented and ridiculous, BTW, as though such a dialogue would ever occur in such a context). The movements are slow, and most glaringly obvious, there is understanding between the child as to what is about to occur....in other words, this scene heavily implies consent--and that such a thing is in fact possible. The child initiates oral sex on the adult man. The director has deliberately romanticized child abuse and has attempted to make it sultry.

The director has essentially made soft kiddy porn under the moral guise of making a film about the 'horrors of child abuse', and what makes this screamingly obvious is the utter lack of sexual violence that characterises that crime. A relative of mine is a social worker who deals with very violent cases of kids who are the victims of sexual and physical abuse, they are too bad to be adopted out and have to be housed in custom-made facilities. Both the aforementioned invariably go hand-in-hand. From talking to him it rarely has anything much to do with sexual drive at all. It's about power and so, so much darker than that. Films like this DO NOT accurately portray how that nightmare really plays out. Most of the kids who are affected by it are destroyed psychologically forever, and my relative has told me more than once that often he's just 'Babysitting these kids until they're old enough to go to jail'.

This is a fantasy piece, not an exposé. The trend was set with Cuties, the envelope is being pushed and here we are.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/


We've come a long way since TOOL's film clip for their song Prison Sex, which deals with child sexual abuse in an artful way, caused a moral panic with critics and the public. Now the critics and Jerrys of the world defend open-sewage pederasty and call it moral service. I’m posting this to show that yes, cinematography or in this case animation can be used to portray topics like this without smacking people in the face with blatant fetishized paedophilia.





View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUPV4OfNlt0

 

[AUL LAD]

What Jerry fails to grasp is the cinematography of the scene, which is deliberately rendered in such a way as to make the scene seem 'Romantic' and not as he puts it 'Horrific' at all. The lighting is gentle, the dialogue exchanges between the child and the man are adult (absolutely demented and ridiculous, BTW, as though such a dialogue would ever occur in such a context). The movements are slow, and most glaringly obvious, there is understanding between the child as to what is about to occur....in other words, this scene heavily implies consent--and that such a thing is in fact possible. The child initiates oral sex on the adult man. The director has deliberately romanticized child abuse and has attempted to make it sultry.

The director has essentially made soft kiddy porn under the moral guise of making a film about the 'horrors of child abuse', and what makes this screamingly obvious is the utter lack of sexual violence that characterises that crime. A relative of mine is a social worker who deals with very violent cases of kids who are the victims of sexual and physical abuse, they are too bad to be adopted out and have to be housed in custom-made facilities. Both the aforementioned invariably go hand-in-hand. From talking to him it rarely has anything much to do with sexual drive at all. It's about power and so, so much darker than that. Films like this DO NOT accurately portray how that nightmare really plays out. Most of the kids who are affected by it are destroyed psychologically forever, and my relative has told me more than once that often he's just 'Babysitting these kids until they're old enough to go to jail'.

This is a fantasy piece, not an exposé. The trend was set with Cuties, the envelope is being pushed and here we are.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/


We've come a long way since TOOL's film clip for their song Prison Sex, which deals with child sexual abuse in an artful way, caused a moral panic with critics and the public. Now the critics and Jerrys of the world defend open-sewage pederasty and call it moral service. I’m posting this to show that yes, cinematography or in this case animation can be used to portray topics like this without smacking people in the face with blatant fetishized paedophilia.





View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUPV4OfNlt0

a child i served mass with was raped and taken over by one of the most evil people in Ireland .
his parents were described as slow learners and incapable of doing little more than feeding him .
he was called PA and he spent the rest of his life in an out of st canices --
his life 24/7 was destroyed he never knew a moments peace in 50 years .
the entity was known as fr mcnamara was moved to roscommon by the local bishop who did not inform the locals what he was capable of .
this is where he raped o donnell and drove him mad and convinced o donnell he was the only person who could save him from madness as the only thing o donnell desired was his sanity .
o donnell followed Imelda Riney and her young son into a wood and another local evil creature lied to a local priest that Imelda Riney who was a beautiful woman in every regard was having an affair with o donnell and a child was present .
the local priest went into the wood and his appearance so disturbed o donnell who worshiped the only woman on earth who greeted him each day as a human being ,
that he killed the priest in front of Imelda and her child and then seeing all was lost that he treasured he killed Imelda and her child .
The Irish government paid 2 social workers to spend hours each day in o donnells company until he told them the whole story and he then had a heart attack and died .
mc namara was told the garda would be arresting him the following day and he died.
this man went to grab me in the graveyard as i was taking a short cut to school he stumbled on the wet grass and let me go to get his balance --i ran and did not know why .
throughout my life extraordinary things have happened me in various countries as i have spent my life traveling as part of my work.
something has time and again has saved me from disaster --i am sure of it .
when i was 10 i got jaundice and i got anointed as they thought i would not make it ,
i have a clear memory of looking from about 20 ft over my bed at the door where my parents both were looking at me in the bed - i am told by my family that this is a pre death experience or a experience during death.
why i am spared i do not know and i have no idea what the something is but i am sure it is there .

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

I remember that case well @AUL LAD it was a shocker......didn't O'Donnell murder a priest called Fr Joe Walsh also ?

 

[Fishalt]

I think you are all complaining too much.

The expression is 'I think thou doth protest too much'. It's a kind of modernised version of "The Lady doth protest too much, methinks". It's from Hamlet. That's a book you haven't read.

Generally this expression is used with suspicion, the implication being the more vociferously somebody argues against something, the more likely they are to have engaged in whatever that is themselves.

When it generally isn't employed is when somebody is arguing for the right of something to exist or its benignity, such as you are now, pursuant to your defence of soft child pornography on the basis that this is circumscribed by a narrative plot that allegedly seeks to point how bad child grooming and sex abuse is.

This is merely a disclaimer; a means by which the director has marketed soft child porn to people like you, the market for it, with impunity. In fact, the reason you are defending it is that you're hoping this little cultural mileage kicks off the Overton window, and more films and television are produced showing increasingly more graphic kiddy porn--the event Horizon being a future in which you may enjoy the very worst and explicit of it without the threat of criminal charges being filed against you for doing so. That, and it's your burning desire for heinous filth like this to become culturally normalized so that you no longer meet the standard o deviance for enjoying and consuming it that you currently do.

The only thing we have in common is that there's no reason for either of us to read that article on Grooming. For myself, this is because it's not a subject I'm interested in nor want to think about. In your case, it's because you're already the Nation of Ireland's seminal expert on it all, and were the case study predator researchers studied to define nominal terms for the behaviour of groomers, and signs thereof. I truly have no doubt you read that article and experienced the joy of perfect recognition.

I have both good news and bad news for you. The good news is, this is the last time I'm going to use this meme. The bad news is, I am in the process of augmenting an updated and more apt version of it. It is quite glorious. I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as everyone else does.

 

[Declan]

Do you believe that a man of 40 having sex with a child of 12 should be locked up for life.

 

[Kangal]

Do you believe that a man of 40 having sex with a child of 12 should be locked up for life.

Yep. What do the others think though?

 

[Declan]

Do you believe it is fine for a 13 year old to be depicted performing sex of an adult on TV where children can watch.

 

[Jim Beam]

You come across as dodgy Jim. I don't believe you at all. This all comes across as stopping discussion of the subject.

If instead the woman had written a book about her dreadful experiences in detail, would you also object to that?

I refer you to post #60 in this thread.

 

[Jim Beam]

if people would debate on the facts, and not resort to threats, slander and insults.

Can we just establish some decorum at least?

Alternative views to the majority view here on subjects like immigration, the Ukraine War, Covid etc should be welcomed in my opinion to avoid the site becoming an echo chamber.

You are beyond the pale on this however. That scene depicts the sexual abuse of a child by an adult and serves no purpose other than to arouse sick individuals. People like you should be welcomed nowhere.

 

[Mad as Fish]

You've kicked up some very disturbing admissions from your mates Anderson.

The Pedophile Information Exchange or PIE (sound familiar from elsewhere?) was officially disbanded in 1984, or so we are told. But these organisations never just slip silently into the night, instead, their members will tend to regroup underground and continue with their movement out of the limelight, and so here you are 'Jerry', pushing you filth through the slightest crack of an open door.

Paedophile Information Exchange - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Anderson]

I don't know how you could even place yourself in that mindset.
It seems to come easy for you.

It's quite an easy thing to process.

If a person is attracted to having sex with a minor then the imagery of sex with minors would be mutually attractive to them. This is why we have so many cases of pedophiles being arrested with Child Pornography on their computers etc. So if a Movie shows a scene that is meant to be a minor having sex with an adult, then it can be assumed that those same pedophiles would enjoy the sex scene. Thus this means that the scene is nothing short of child porn.

European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

Terrifying Statistics Linking Child Sexual Abuse and Porn Internet Use — Educate2Empower Publishing

• European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

e2epublishing.info

 

[Anderson]

Wow.

I'm quoting this so it's not deleted later.

Could you answer the actual question instead of misquoting me?

"If a person is attracted to having sex with a minor then the imagery of sex with minors would be mutually attractive to them. This is why we have so many cases of pedophiles being arrested with Child Pornography on their computers etc. So if a Movie shows a scene that is meant to be a minor having sex with an adult, then it can be assumed that those same pedophiles would enjoy the sex scene. Thus this means that the scene is nothing short of child porn."

European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

Terrifying Statistics Linking Child Sexual Abuse and Porn Internet Use — Educate2Empower Publishing

• European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

e2epublishing.info

 

[Kangal]

Could you answer the actual question instead of misquoting me?

"If a person is attracted to having sex with a minor then the imagery of sex with minors would be mutually attractive to them. This is why we have so many cases of pedophiles being arrested with Child Pornography on their computers etc. So if a Movie shows a scene that is meant to be a minor having sex with an adult, then it can be assumed that those same pedophiles would enjoy the sex scene. Thus this means that the scene is nothing short of child porn."

European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

Terrifying Statistics Linking Child Sexual Abuse and Porn Internet Use — Educate2Empower Publishing

• European researchers (COPINE) … found 78% of offenders charged with downloading or possessing abusive images had abused children prior to, or soon after viewing images. On average, each offender had abused up to 30 different children.

e2epublishing.info

I didn't misquote you. I replied to your post as it was before you later edited it.

Anyway, keep talking Anderson.

I'm not going to attempt to put myself in the mindset of a pedo. Who does that?

 

[Anderson]

I'm already answered the question several times already.

I do not think how anyone normal can get into the mindset of a pedo.

You should be threadbanned for continuing to spam the thread.

I provided you with a report that shows that the majority of pedophiles use child pornography. So you don't need to get in the head of a pedophile, you just need to understand and show some logic.

If the majority of pedophiles enjoy Child Porn ( As the report suggests) then it's going to be exactly the same case with the Movie in the OP. A scene that shows and highlights a child having sex with an adult is going to be attractive to a person who is a pedophile, this makes the scene child pornography.

 

[Declan]

I have deleted 117 posts.

Let's be clear here.
The question is not whether the movie should have been made or a book written.
It is about whether a very sexuak scene should have been included that certainly a pedo would enjoy but more importantly, it can be used as a precedent for the future. As in the scene of the first time a man kissed a woman on screen led to a nipple first shown which lead to full nudity etc .

I will remember the episode of Startrek where Kirk kissed Uhuru. It was the first interracial kiss and of course it broke the ice.

But I know what would happen in a real pub, if someone defended that scene, as a respected poster pointed out, he would get hammered at least. Before that happened, I would have sent him home to save him. So Jerry has been removed from this thread . He made his point and those posts remain, plenty of them .


As another poster pointed out, molestation leads alas to suicide and other problems, and anyone defending it in anyway will be totally excluded.

I said at the start of this site that any urging or telling others to self harm was one of the few things deserving of immediate banning.
Thank you.