How is it that seemingly intelligent people believe that you can have open borders and a Welfare State, decent Labour laws, etc at the same time?

[Zipporah's Flint]

It is so outright irrational that there must be some psychological reason or reasons behind it.

One is tempted to believe that intelligent people do not actually believe this, and they are only saying it to fool the dim witted, but this does not appear to be the case in a lot- though not all- cases.

 

[Wolf]

It is so outright irrational that there must be some psychological reason or reasons behind it.

One is tempted to believe that intelligent people do not actually believe this, and they are only saying it to fool the dim witted, but this does not appear to be the case in a lot- though not all- cases.

The ones pushing the open borders shite are the ones who'll be least affected by it.

 

[Professor]

Magic Thinking?

 

[Professor]

Just writing here off the top of my head, so . . . Is it to do with intelligent people leaving those sorts of questions to the people who are specially qualified and employed in figuring out the problems and providing the solutions??
Apparently Ireland has access to a Magic Checkbook and can afford to do what is necessary in maintaining this and bigger population - No matter what the weather - That is a problem for Government to figure out!?
The open borders probably needs to work both ways so that new arrivals have some sort of value attached to them which the country can utilize, For example Keelings surely won't be flying in migrant labourer's now or hospitals getting Asian nurses abroad or Brazillian butchers for Gort or Polish plumbers for the sites or African drivers for the transportations Now they're already here available to be employed, see and they'll pay huge taxes and charges into the economy too as will their children and they'll open up own business to self support.

No big deal and sure Leo'na promised the world he'd see to 60,000 new housing units per year, he's said it loads of times in the Irish Times and RTE and it should start in earnest - Next year, No problems have been aired in those MSM so it must be OK?

Not many complaining on the Internet about it either apart from 50-100 Typing Heads in a population of 5 million so hey, there's nothing to worry about, is there?

 

[Declan]

The Magic Checkbook indeed is the problem.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

The Magic Checkbook indeed is the problem.

In fairness hardly anyone, and as regards what is public no one, seems to know how the economies in the West work anymore. roc_ made a big thing about Libertarians having predicted crashes which never happened but the thing is if our economies were obeying the rules of capitalism they should have. Again though there is a conspiracy theory that the whole Covid thing was about global elites disguising a global economic slump.

 

[BSA]

The ones pushing the open borders shite are the ones who'll be least affected by it.

Everyone will be affected..

some sooner than others..the rubbish will be fly-tipped in working class areas first.. much to the amusement..and income generating potential..of Ireland's Gombeen property class ..then like all toxic messes it'll leak out quickly muggings, rapes, ghetto formation.. Ireland is tiny the notion that you can import muslims and African males without consequences is a very stupid one.

Any money made off this will go on fortress level security..

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

When the two girls in Monaghan died Mary Carr in the Irish Daily Mail seemed fixated with the fact that one of them was a Muslim.

She spoke almost with pride that Ireland now has "two communities". Muslim and non-Muslim. All the other immigrants it seems are assimilated with the natives and just the Muslims make up the 'other' community.

She reverently described how the men stayed outside the family house while the women were inside grieving. In her next article she'd be denouncing the patriarchy.

I wouldn't be surprised if she excitedly e-mailed the story to her friends in London or New York to show them how diverse Ireland is now.

 

[BSA]

When the two girls in Monaghan died Mary Carr in the Irish Daily Mail seemed fixated with the fact that one of them was a Muslim.

She spoke almost with pride that Ireland now has "two communities". Muslim and non-Muslim. All the other immigrants it seems are assimilated with the natives and just the Muslims make up the 'other' community.

She reverently described how the men stayed outside the family house while the women were inside grieving. In her next article she'd be denouncing the patriarchy.

I wouldn't be surprised if she excitedly e-mailed the story to her friends in London or New York to show them how diverse Ireland is now.

The relationship and gushing admiration between ball breaking shamrock 'feminists' and stone age cults like islam is truly baffling..

Does the prospect of being treated like a piece of property, a slave and a wank sock at the same time secretly arouse them...?

I think it does..

 

[valamhic]

Intelligent people are very vary scarce on the ground as this site proves.

 

[Esatdigiwank]

Intelligent people are very vary scarce on the ground as this site proves.

I used to be intelligent before l was poisoned by the antipsychotic Abilify.

 

[Anderson]

The ones pushing the open borders shite are the ones who'll be least affected by it.

Exactly, either they are state employed, directly , NGO or on Welfare.

The media are also guilty, pushing the agenda.

 

[BSA]

Exactly, either they are state employed, directly , NGO or on Welfare.

The media are also guilty, pushing the agenda.

Nobody will escape the consequences of open borders in Ireland..

You are a walk, a bus/Dart ride or a short spin in an unlicensed, untaxed and uninsured DoneDeal car from a poor area to a wealthy area..

Your imports will come for you..no doubt about that..

 

[clarke-connolly]

Nobody will escape the consequences of open borders in Ireland..

You are a walk, a bus/Dart ride or a short spin in an unlicensed, untaxed and uninsured DoneDeal car from a poor area to a wealthy area..

Your imports will come for you..no doubt about that..

Except the Wealthy Areas will be much much much better policed.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

The relationship and gushing admiration between ball breaking shamrock 'feminists' and stone age cults like islam is truly baffling..

Does the prospect of being treated like a piece of property, a slave and a wank sock at the same time secretly arouse them...?

I think it does..

Outside of Sinead O'Connor all the Irish girls I have come across who were attracted to Islam or who actually converted to Islam have been from Prod backgrounds, usually Ulster Scot Prod backgrounds. Ulster Scot culture is extremely by general Western standards Patriarchial never mind given to Feminism.

Interestingly Ulster Scot women played no role in Loyalist terrorism outside of the Johnny Adair's wife but we have played a significant role in Islamist terrorism- one of the leading figures in Al Qeda is from County Down (though she was raised in England) and one of the central figures in prison in England from ISIL is from Tyrone.

A lot of Muslim men to me have come across as hen-pecked so to speak by their wives.

 

[valamhic]

I think it is working out very well in Dixie. They have a wild hog problem so they hunt them and they have a
migrant problem so they bus them all up to New York and Boston. Plenty of half occupied welcoming homes up there to share out.

 

[BSA]

Except the Wealthy Areas will be much much much better policed.

Will they though??

The Irish Garda are increasingly truculent..disdainfully treated like shit by the Gombeens.. they're viewed by the Gombeens as little more than their private store detectives to mind their assets. . The Regime want them to sternly police the violent junkies and criminals they imported like the NChimpo family..but they'll throw the individual Garda under a bus by criminally charging them if any of their pets get injured..to appease the NGO second tier government..

The AGS also voted no confidence in their MI5 'boss' which will piss off the Gombeens..you can bet the AGS will be punished by them for that..

I wouldn't bet on their long term support for the Regime cabal ..

 

[BSA]

Outside of Sinead O'Connor all the Irish girls I have come across who were attracted to Islam or who actually converted to Islam have been from Prod backgrounds, usually Ulster Scot Prod backgrounds. Ulster Scot culture is extremely by general Western standards Patriarchial never mind given to Feminism.

Interestingly Ulster Scot women played no role in Loyalist terrorism outside of the Johnny Adair's wife but we have played a significant role in Islamist terrorism- one of the leading figures in Al Qeda is from County Down (though she was raised in England) and one of the central figures in prison in England from ISIL is from Tyrone.

A lot of Muslim men to me have come across as hen-pecked so to speak by their wives.

My experiences are different..in my small town the females who established relationships and have children with islamic males are , without exception..

Grossly obese, borderline additional needs, physically unattractive in the extreme..pierced and tattooed with the kind of jailhouse inking that immediately signifies lifelong unemployment and welfare dependency ..

In thirty years of Irish open borders I've never seen an islamic female form a relationship with an Irish man..

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

My experiences are different..in my small town the females who established relationships and have children with islamic males are , without exception..

Grossly obese, borderline additional needs, physically unattractive in the extreme..pierced and tattooed with the kind of jailhouse inking that immediately signifies lifelong unemployment and welfare dependency ..

In thirty years of Irish open borders I've never seen an islamic female form a relationship with an Irish man..

Interesting- are the males in question actually Muslim though or just lumpens from a Muslim background?

I have seen in England women from Muslim backgrounds have relationships with men from different backgrounds but they tended to even hostile to Islam. I have never though seen a Muslima have a relationship with a non-Muslim. I think though that people in general are better dating within their own tribe.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

A lot of Muslim men to me have come across as hen-pecked so to speak by their wives.

Its a quare breed of hen-pecked where a handful of them managed to groom and ride 100,000 underage English girls.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

Its a quare breed of hen-pecked where a handful of them managed to groom and ride 100,000 underage English girls.

Hen pecked by their own women.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

My experiences are different..in my small town

Something that really annoys me about the Ruling Elite in the 26 counties is that they seem obsessed in making sure every small town and village gets it's quota of "New Irish".

 

[BSA]

Interesting- are the males in question actually Muslim though or just lumpens from a Muslim background?

I have seen in England women from Muslim backgrounds have relationships with men from different backgrounds but they tended to even hostile to Islam. I have never though seen a Muslima have a relationship with a non-Muslim. I think though that people in general are better dating within their own tribe.

Islam is a complete political, social and religious identity..it is far above mere nationality... that's why the Irish 'government' is risking our lives importing an army of muslim males..

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

My experiences are different..in my small town the females who established relationships and have children with islamic males are , without exception.. Grossly obese, borderline additional needs, physically unattractive in the extreme..pierced and tattooed with the kind of jailhouse inking that immediately signifies lifelong unemployment and welfare dependency ..In thirty years of Irish open borders I've never seen an islamic female form a relationship with an Irish man..

What I'm seeing in my town is even worse.

Muslim men in flash looking cars (10 year old Mercs, Beemers, Audis etc; easy to impress a teenager) with very young Irish girls in the passenger seats.

Grooming gangs are here and it feels like there's nothing you can do about it. What do you do? Tell the Guards you think you saw an underage girl in a Muslim's car?

 

[BSA]

What I'm seeing in my town is even worse.

Muslim men in flash looking cars (10 year old Mercs, Beemers, Audis etc; easy to impress a teenager) with very young Irish girls in the passenger seats.

Grooming gangs are here and it feels like there's nothing you can do about it. What do you do? Tell the Guards you think you saw an underage girl in a Muslim's car?

Telling the Woke Irish coppers such a thing will result in your arrest..

The AGS are reduced to the Regime store detectives.. minding their assets, enforcement of their lies and narrative..

 

[Professor]

What I'm seeing in my town is even worse.

Muslim men in flash looking cars (10 year old Mercs, Beemers, Audis etc; easy to impress a teenager) with very young Irish girls in the passenger seats.

Grooming gangs are here and it feels like there's nothing you can do about it. What do you do? Tell the Guards you think you saw an underage girl in a Muslim's car?

What have the muslim men got to offer Irish girls that Irish men do not?
At least nowadays since the Bradford prosecutions, people are wide aware and actively seek to protect girls/women.
Ireland is a small place with an even smaller tiny public space which is very closely monitored and little slips by unnoticed.
If you are so concerned then record some footage and send it to some of the many authorities who care and bear some sort of responsibility for that sort of thing.
Nip it in the bud or else . . .

 

[BSA]

What have the muslim men got to offer Irish girls that Irish men do not?
At least nowadays since the Bradford prosecutions, people are wide aware and actively seek to protect girls/women.
Ireland is a small place with an even smaller tiny public space which is very closely monitored and little slips by unnoticed.
If you are so concerned then record some footage and send it to some of the many authorities who care and bear some sort of responsibility for that sort of thing.
Nip it in the bud or else . . .

Muslim males will not be stalking the daughters of the Irish establishment.. they're way too crafty for that.. they will target the vulnerable and ply underage girls with cannabis and alcohol before they rape them...and pass them to their fathers and grandfathers like they do in dozens of countries ..

Sex offences are easily put on trial...why our Regime are importing and protecting them is what matters..

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

What have the muslim men got to offer Irish girls that Irish men do not?

Irish men wouldn't be grooming underage girls. At least not in gangs. Lone paedos might try it alright.

At least nowadays since the Bradford prosecutions, people are wide aware and actively seek to protect girls/women.
Ireland is a small place with an even smaller tiny public space which is very closely monitored and little slips by unnoticed.
If you are so concerned then record some footage and send it to some of the many authorities who care and bear some sort of responsibility for that sort of thing.
Nip it in the bud or else . . .

I don't even have a Smartphone Buddy so I ain't recording sh1t.

The authorities?!! They pull up in Taxis outside Tusla to pick up these kids and bring them for a gang bang. I had a thread on it but Dan must've deleted it.

Besides if you think Bradford changed anything you're naive. Muslim gangs are still at it all over the UK.

 

[Professor]

The authorities?!! They pull up in Taxis outside Tusla to pick up these kids and bring them for a gang bang. I had a thread on it but Dan must've deleted it.

Get on to Ruhama about it, politically they're very active and influential, can get laws passed and amended in no time.

Learn more about the global sex trade - Ruhama

The sex trade in Ireland remains largely invisible – as are the women trapped within it. Prostitution can be a difficult subject to navigate and there are many polarising opinions on the most effective legislative framework to reduce the exploitation and inherent harm of the sex trade. Ruhama...

www.ruhama.ie

Perhaps tell them about the advent of teenager prostitutes! That might get something done??

 

[Professor]

Face it @Myles O'Reilly, everyone knew what the paki grooming gangs were up to but chose to ignore and let it continue for years.
The blame for grooming gangs must get shared around the community including you who won't take action - The parents, police, social services, nosy neighbours, the girls themselves and of course the pedo pervs who groom.
See that is why it's a mistake to blame a culture for the misdeeds of a few foreign gangs who are allowed to fuck around.
I'll certainly be interested in the replies you receive from Ruhama. It takes just a few minutes to send a quick email or post them a letter with your concerns, they have the experience and qualification to advise what's best.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

What I'm seeing in my town is even worse.

Muslim men in flash looking cars (10 year old Mercs, Beemers, Audis etc; easy to impress a teenager) with very young Irish girls in the passenger seats.

Grooming gangs are here and it feels like there's nothing you can do about it. What do you do? Tell the Guards you think you saw an underage girl in a Muslim's car?

Myles you are a significantly above average in terms of intelligence bright lad. There is a ton of money to be made in Muslim bashing- it is a whole industry- and if you look at the top people in it they are not that bright at all, did you see the debate where two Muslims who are pretty savage completely crushed two of the leading professional Muslim bashers? You could do a lot better. I am not sure if I should encourage you in this though.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Myles O'Reilly The blame for grooming gangs must get shared around the community including you who won't take action.

What action can I take?! I seen a couple of Muslim men with teenage Irish girls in the passenger seats sitting in traffic.

I'd need a bit more to go on surely?

I'll certainly be interested in the replies you receive from Ruhama.

Don't know why I'd call there. East Europeans whom Ireland nearly scored 100 points against a fortnight ago?

Buddy, it was Tusla themselves who said Taxis pick up the girls from their premises, take them to hotels and gang bang them.

Tusla is the child protection authority for Ireland!!! WTF would Rumania do for us?

 

[Professor]

Buddy, it was Tusla themselves who said Taxis pick up the girls from their premises, take them to hotels and gang bang them.

Ah, so it is teen prostitution then? In that case perhaps it's simply a matter of notifying Tusla to get in contact with Ruhama about the problem/situation? Introduce them to each other by open-letter, why not?
Travis bickle would be proud of you Sir.

 

[Professor]

@Myles O'Reilly Why didn't you say so in the first place?? . . .

. . . "Every child online could be subject to exploitation, and we're seeing more and more child being targeted through online games for, example," she added."County lines is a business. Its a very, very high-value criminal business, and so there's a huge incentive to draw children and young people into that business."

Kate Wareham, of the non-profit Catch-22, in Merseyside, told ITV News: "We recently had a referral for a child of seven years old."

Catch 22 runs a victim support project for under 25s funded by the Home Office; a rescue service helps young people found far from home, whilst specialist caseworkers support them to break the cycle of offending and escape exploitation.

At 13, Nequela Whittaker was selling drugs and carrying knives.

For years she was lost in a world of chaos and violence.

By 16, she was trafficking heroin from London to Scotland and running county drugs lines across the UK, often recruiting other girls as they were less likely to be stopped by police.

She witnessed friends being murdered, mass brawls as well as stabbings, shootings and robberies.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-03-09/children-as-young-as-seven-exploited-by-county-lines-drugs-gangs

A new report from the Citywide Drugs Crisis Campaign shows young people see drug dealing as a lucrative alternative to precarious job contracts.

It comes amid reports kids as young as 10 and 12 in Dublin's south inner city are being exploited by dealers who are getting them to sell drugs.

Trained outreach workers operating in Donore Avenue say they can intervene in young people's lives to stop them falling into this trap.

Kids as young as ten selling drugs in Dublin's south inner city

Amid reports young children are being targeted to sell drugs, a south inner city youth programme which intervenes in their lives is in danger of folding.

www.newstalk.com

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Ah, so it is teen prostitution then? In that case perhaps it's simply a matter of notifying Tusla to get in contact with Ruhama about the problem/situation? Introduce them to each other by open-letter, why not?

Good idea. I'll write a letter to Ireland's child protection agency to tell them its a good idea to protect children

Travis bickle would be proud of you Sir.

They used to call me that on another Site!

 

[Professor]

Good idea. I'll write a letter to Ireland's child protection agency to tell them its a good idea to protect children

Good we're talking about these things, facing up and learning as we go?

I'll write too. am not fully aware of conditions on the ground but currently doing a little research and joining a few dots which may or may not be relevant.

The Links above in post #34 were a bit shocking to read and appear to offer another reason why youngsters are going around under questionable circumstances.

Now we are looking at a combination of Drugs, Money & Sex - It's a puzzle at the moment but future developments should tell us more?

 

[Professor]

@Myles O'Reilly I'm glad you've cheered up a bit, good man yourself.

By joining the dots, I'm left feeling a bit . It's to do with the other link on the other thread concerning the 'Increased use of crack in Ireland' articles from earlier in the year.
It's been spelled out that the stuff is super-addictive, now take into account that youngsters are actually involved in the distribution and sale of such . . . . What do you think is bound to happen???

Also take into account that a girl has been selling and working the drugs for a gang? Then they've got her in the palm of their hands man, she'll never leave or grass up what's being going on and the addiction will ensure she continues to work hard for them.
This scenario is beyond anything I had envisioned about Irish kids yesterday and yet it seems most likely, why not?

 

[Declan]

What have the muslim men got to offer Irish girls that Irish men do not?

Good question, but a lot .

They are not feminized passes and gender confused for a start.

They have the self confidence as well.
Now in reality, these semi savages have nothing , but centuries of being told that they are superior has given them the confidence .

They likely have money as they get free mo ey whereas most irish might not. Is it not the same as in the dances in the old days of lads having car keyes on their belts, nobody had them in their pockets .

And lastly but not lastly, the girls are brainwashed to be welcoming to them, that is the biggest problem. Maybe getting their first kicking from mohamid might cure them, but likely not.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Dan, the girls in question are underage children. All they need is to buy them a lucky bag in the pound shop and they're in.

 

[Professor]

Dan, the girls in question are underage children. All they need is to buy them a lucky bag in the pound shop and they're in.

Myles, my links show they can be as young as 7, typically 12 and upward years of age, are involved in the supply of hard drugs on an industrial scale and are groomed exploited chiefly by local gangs - Christian's, Atheist's, Muslims, Satanists - White & pink, Black & brown.

The links are all over the place, what have you got to show, it's a serious state of affairs - You must have some evidence? Offenders charged?