Mass Migration to Ireland & Europe

[dropkickmejeebus]

Yeah, that's about it. I wouldn't put quite so much emphasis on religion though, not because I'm an atheist, but because I don't think that there really should be. Religion matters but I think more along ethnic/racial lines.

Yes. But in a way it's stealing a trick from their book. If we give it the tone of religious civilisation clash, the whole race argument goes out the window. That would be my thinking anyway.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

I've been seeing a lot from these guys lately. It's not before time. Need to get behind them.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

I'm not quite sure that it is


Why should we play by their rules? I mean, that's kinda the problem isn't it

I get what you're saying, either way we'll be labelled anyway, so who cares. But, it's important to reference our heritage not just our colour. I know you're not religious, but our heritage is White Christian European. It make the argument stronger I think.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

No, not at all.

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I don't buy the whole peaceful co-existence argument. Muslims are not peacefully co-existing here in Europe (that could be based on what countries they have come from though). Jews have no intention of co-existing without trying to subvert the culture that hosts them. Neither belong here.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

It's not just (a fear of) that, we should be pro-white, ethnocentric, "racist". We're the only racial group that can't be, fuck that.


Yes, I know that, but you erased the white part. We either become ethnocentric, again, like all other racial groups, or we die.

No, I agree. Whites make p less than six per cent of the World Population. We are more entitled than any to be ethnocentric. I've no issue with being called racist, the word has no value anyway.

 

[scolairebocht]

Anyway I agree with David, you cannot become Irish in one generation like that. If I was born in Tokyo, had all the papers and lived there for ages, I still wouldn't be Japanese, nor my children. And I don't understand how people can treat Irish nationality with less respect than the Japanese one.

 

[Declan]

I don't buy the whole peaceful co-existence argument. Muslims are not peacefully co-existing here in Europe (that could be based on what countries they have come from though). Jews have no intention of co-existing without trying to subvert the culture that hosts them. Neither belong here.

Islam is incompatible. As soon as they get the numbers, they will turn nasty.


And the quicker that happens the better.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

Islam is incompatible. As soon as they get the numbers, they will turn nasty.


And the quicker that happens the better.

Jews are also incompatable.

 

[Declan]

Jews are also incompatable.

Yes, but not as clearly, they are infinitely smarter and can overcome their lesser number .

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

Yes, but not as clearly, they are infinitely smarter and can overcome their lesser number .

I'd view them as more dangerous. They've already threatened the Samson option if they don't get their way.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

Well okay, but I thought you said that we should take a trick out of their book and identify as a religious group (which I don't think they really do) so as to avoid being labelled racist

Not to avoid being labelled racist, but to avoid this going down the BLM route and getting deliberately confused.

 

[Tiger]

lol Things aren't getting any less confusing for me. Let's start again.

You said:


I took that to mean:

1. They identify as a religious group (which I don't think they do themselves, I think only people like @Tiger think that they're a religious group (which is probably a sort of projection))

2. If we identify as a religious group (which we aren't) then it would remove race from the equation, but why would we want to do that other than fear of being labeled "racist"?

And as for the part in bold in your post above, I'm not sure what that means, r u saying that we shouldn't be engaging in racial identity politics, or something? Of course BLM isn't so much black identitarian as it is an anti-white hate organisation.

Okay, my low IQ friend moron….,you have a history of misrepresenting me now.

As you have referenced me, can you clarify whom I think are a religious group ( whom you presumably obviously don’t)

Also, I feel privileged to be living rent free inside your small head.

 

[Declan]

You're stuck on the anti-Muslim (counter-Jihad) stuff.

Which is the bigger problem, the people coming through the gate or the people holding it open?

I don't like either being in Ireland, and I am convinced that both intend to eliminate Christians, goyims and infidels.

 

[Declan]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw_53F_eE_o&t=46s

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

lol Things aren't getting any less confusing for me. Let's start again.

You said:


I took that to mean:

1. They identify as a religious group (which I don't think they do themselves, I think only people like @Tiger think that they're a religious group (which is probably a sort of projection))

2. If we identify as a religious group (which we aren't) then it would remove race from the equation, but why would we want to do that other than fear of being labeled "racist"?

And as for the part in bold in your post above, I'm not sure what that means, r u saying that we shouldn't be engaging in racial identity politics, or something? Of course BLM isn't so much black identitarian as it is an anti-white hate organisation.

Ok. Making it black against white is too broad atm. It invites too many to the party. We need to identify ourselves with our heritage as well as with our skin colour. Two pronged approach.
Instead of just being White against blacks, we are now White Christians against Muslims and Jews.
Thing about Jews they shapeshift. White one day, Jewish the next. They will never identify as Christian however.
Therefore, we are fighting for a White Christian Europe.
I've no problem with being called a racist or an anti-Semite, I'm both. I mean anti-Semite in its true form as well. I don't want these people in Europe. Both have proven they are unwilling to assimilate.

 

[jpc]

Probably be criticised for mentioning this if it's happening here.

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[clarke-connolly]

Probably be criticised for mentioning this if it's happening here.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Probably Islamic Schools = = What could possibly go wrong ? ? ! !

 

[Anderson]

View: https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/52272

 

[Tiger]

You've been asked umpteen times what you think a Jew is and you refuse to answer

I don't think that Jews are a religious group, in much the same way I don't think that the Irish are

A Jewish person is someone who identifies with or belongs to the Jewish religion, culture or ethnicity.

As mentioned ad naseum the breakdown of identity is multifaceted under the broad adjective of Jew (Yiddish, Ladino, Hebrew etc…). Some Jews identify under the religious aspects, others just on cultural or ethnic grounds.

Jewish identity is diverse, but doesn’t qualify as a race under any understanding of the word ‘race’.

 

[Tiger]

As a matter of interest, do you think that the Irish are a race?

No.

We have our own unique culture and historical identity, but we are not biologically distinct enough from the rest of Europe to be credibly defined as being our own race.

There has been many foreign conquests of Ireland which has lead to our diverse ancestry

Many Irish people are descended from Viking (Scandinavian) ancestry, particularly people from Dublin, Waterford and Wexford.

There is also a genetic connection with France. There has been several migration events from France, one notable period of interaction occurred during the Norman conquest of Ireland in the 12th century. You can see the French ancestry in many surnames such as De Burgh (Burke), Fitzgerald, Delaney etc..

There has also been several conquests from England since the 12th Century. Many of the ruling class over the centuries and still to this day hail from this ‘Anglo-Irish’ heritage.

 

[Tiger]

Would you believe that I've argued against your BFF @PlunkettsGhost on basically the same grounds, several times?

Each to their own.

The word ‘race’ is very slippery. Some people use it to describe what would essentially be a tribe, but tribes are normally defined as small groups. It’s hard to make the case to describe an entire nation as a tribe. When I hear people say “the Irish race”, I presume that they are referring to the Irish people as a distinct tribe versus anything genetic or ethnic.

Yes, Plunketts believes that the Irish are a race. I did a quick search for posts by him with Irish + race and here's an example -

Post in thread 'Mass Migration to Ireland & Europe' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/mass-migration-to-ireland-europe.252/post-24379

Btw, I recall listening to a few minutes of that video (with Morgoth) and didn't hear anything that was attested (seems like Plunketts was just fitting in a EMJ talking point).

Oh, and I forgot to ask you in my last post.. If I was to convert, is convert the right word for me, well you know what I mean, if I was to adopt Judaism as my religion, would I then be a Jew?

Yes, of course. It’s simply an adjective to help describe a persons religion or heritage. That would include converts.

The same would be true if someone became a Muslim, they would now have a new adjective as part of their identity.

Is there some reason why you think Jews are different to other groups?

 

[Tiger]

Chortle.. That didn't seem to be the case avec moi


I think there's about 15 million Jews in the world (mostly in Israel and the US), total.

I guess it's a religion that didn't really catch on.

They don’t actively proselytise

Jew is a noun

It’s a noun and an adjective depending on usage

I think one can convert (or as the Muslims say - revert) to Islam and become a Muslim. I don't think it's as straightforward becoming a Jew.

It’s not straightforward or common, but there are converts, usually through marriage.

 

[Tiger]

You said it was

*yawn*

link?

 

[Tiger]

What?

I asked you, if I adopted Judaism as my religion, would I then become a Jew (noun) and you answered - Yes, of course.

That's sounds pretty fucking straightforward to me.

 

[Tiger]

Is there something you're not comprehending?

I comprehend that you’re a time wasting mong

 

[Declan]

I consider the irish tobe a race.

Ideally they should be Gaelic irish and not Norman, but they blended well.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

Race isn't a "skin colour" and who said it's "black against white"? And I'm not sure what you want to do with me and millions of other Europeans in your Christian Europe. Deport us, to where?

Christian is just the defence. Your personal views on religion are not the issue. How many atheists identify as Jews when it benefits them. It's just word play. I think in Europe it will have to be about skin colour as well. We need a strong simple identity that excludes all the invaders. That's why White European first. Christian second. We have a lot of non white Christian invaders as well remember.

 

[Esatdigiwank]

That dirty Slovak is 100% guilty there is no doubt

He is more than just Slovak , he is a worthless Slovak Roma Gypsy whose family should be effed out of the country.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

He is more than just Slovak , he is a worthless Slovak Roma Gypsy whose family should be effed out of the country.

Good chance he will be stabbed in prison

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

A defence against what?? So far all I have is - being labeled a 'racist'.


Glad to hear it


Do you have @Tiger syndrome or something? Jews are atheists.

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Race isn't a "skin colour"


We have one, we're white/European, indigenous and these are our homelands. Christianity is our religion but it's not universal (and even less so Catholicism)


Ackshually, speaking of Ireland and not Europe as a whole, we have a lot of white Christian invaders too. But I would ask you to review my 64,000$ question before considering that.

Ok. This I like. You worded it better than I could. I was trying to simplify the phrase to make it as exclusionary as possible, 'European White Christian', in that order perhaps. Yes I know we've a lot of White Christian invaders, but they are not European.
In relation to Ireland yes it has to be tighter. Native, no. 1.
I know what White means and I know it's not just a skin colour, but we need to not be afraid to say skin colour is important either. It is pretty much one of the defining features, even though there are lots of Wiggers about.

 

[dropkickmejeebus]

How does that make it more exclusionary, exactly? If you're saying - European White (same thing) and Christian, then who are you excluding, white non-Christians?


Where are they from then? I was talking about, you know, the Polish and so on


If there's something happening in Ireland that you think is unique to Ireland.. then please let me know


It isn't a "skin colour", period


We should never describe race as a "skin colour", not only is that laughable on its face and not true, what purpose, or whose, do you think it serves to so completely trivialise, superficialise, race?

Jews.

Like it or not we are judged on the colour of our skin. It's an attribute that draws scorn because it represents a successful civilisation that no other race can match. May as well embrace it.

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

Yes, Plunketts believes that the Irish are a race. I did a quick search for posts by him with Irish + race and here's an example -

Literally books written about us:

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

And then there is the science you claim to live or die by:

The majority of our Irish individuals are placed in clusters grouped on one branch, which itself is grouped with the Orcadian branch. This combined branch forms an out group to the remaining fineStructure clusters (Fig. 1). The clusters found on the Irish branch are geographically stratified

The highest haplotypic donations for Rathlin1 are to modern ‘Celtic-speaking’ populations, i.e. Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. Though no donations to ‘Irish’ clusters appear significantly different from each other, both Connacht and Dublin do show the highest affinity with Rathlin1 (Supplementary Fig. 4b). These results suggest a homogenous contribution of these two ancient genomes to contemporary genetic structure in Ireland.

The Irish DNA Atlas: Revealing Fine-Scale Population Structure and History within Ireland - Scientific Reports

The extent of population structure within Ireland is largely unknown, as is the impact of historical migrations. Here we illustrate fine-scale genetic structure across Ireland that follows geographic boundaries and present evidence of admixture events into Ireland. Utilising the ‘Irish DNA...

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[PlunkettsGhost]

We are a race apart

The final region of low genetic migration is found within Ulster, extending into Scotland, and seems to reflect the genetic differentiation of ‘Gaelic’ Ireland and Britain, specifically Scotland. This pattern of Ireland’s isolation is also seen in the gene flow barrier between Wales and Ireland.

 

[clarke-connolly]

They don't look like each other at all. Different complexions, different facial features.

Have the Irish Freedom Party been to Specsavers?

It could be the same Savage alright or maybe Two Savages.

 

[Jay Homer Simpson]

Well you don't say. https://www.thejournal.ie/micheal-martin-ukraine-refugees-6205741-Oct2023/

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

'Reservation’ over plans to use Ballybay Civic Centre to house refugees | NorthernSound

A local councillor has highlighted his "reservations" over a proposal made by Monaghan County Council to use Ballybay Civic Offices as accommodation for Ukraini...

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The bullshit continues , 100% these Ukrainians turn out to be be African and Arab scum

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

What a horrible kip of a soft touch country to put a beautiful woman like Aisling at the mercy of these dregs pouring into the country.

Well said

 

[Declan]

They don't look like each other at all. Different complexions, different facial features.

Have the Irish Freedom Party been to Specsavers?

All we can say for sure is that neither mongrel should be in Ireland

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

Seems there's a row in cabinet over changes to Ukrainians free accommodation here .....1 in 3 are coming from other European countries to plug into the better welfare here ......Roderick wanted to offer them 3 months free accommodation only but it seems Taoiseach and Taniste rounded on him

Roderick is a prick but he was right to bring this in to at least try and stop cheeky Ukrainian chancers on the make (still 500 - 700 coming in weekly)

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland...comodation-for-only-three-months-1543584.html