Tuam excavation begins

[Just Think]

Loving this thread, the disingenuous posts are just the best.

 

[The Equalizer]

Are you subtly moving the goalposts?

If that's how you want to put it, I don't mind..

R u justifying abortion in a first world country like Ireland because of the childbirth maternal mortality rate?

Dying is not the only problem a woman can face in childbirth. We are still talking dangers to the mothers physical health and safety.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0266613822001693

https://about.hse.ie/news/hse-publishes-the-irish-maternity-indicator-system-2024-national-report/

Childbirth related trauma - Trinity Centre for Maternity Care Research (TCMCR) | Trinity College Dublin

www.tcd.ie

Ill stop here for tonight. I'll contnue your lesson tomorrow.

 

[Haven]

If that's how you want to put it, I don't mind..

R u justifying abortion in a first world country like Ireland because of the childbirth maternal mortality rate?

Where did I specifically say that?

I've made it clear that having a baby is a possible danger to the mothers physical health and safety. Childbirth injuries and complications bear that out, as I have shown.

 

[BIG FAT HOOR]

Abortionists don't accept that what's in the mothers (or pregnant person's as they prefer to call them) womb is a baby to begin with.

the most horrific few words i heard in my life was a doctor admitting how he carried out an abortion .
and he explained he pulled it to pieces with a long pliers .
limb from limb and he broke up the alive child into pieces first in the womb .
what a death -- if you dismembered a live child with a pliers and pulled it limb from limb in public you would make world headlines as the most evil perverted creature who ever lived .
i would question the sanity of a doctor who would do such a thing .
how do you block out the vastness of what you have done .
i have been operated on by robots --the system is known as DA VINCI 5 and presently you need a highly trained surgeon and the equipment is extremely expensive --.
the surgery is providing learning for automation and surgeons are LEARNING the machine to take over from them .
i learned elon musk is spending over a billion to AI surgery to perfection and now you will have procedures going 24/7 with a person supervising 15/20 procedures at the same time only initially .
this is the future -- you will select the surgery you wish and if you can pay you can tailor your body to your needs as you age .
pigs are presently used to grow human organs and you will rejuvenate your organs when required .
there is no question that abortions will be available to all .
what i found very sinister was the attempt to provide blanket coverage for abortion in ireland and doctors were put under enormous pressure as they were in receipt of public monies from the HSE .
there was a very weird narrative in the media about the denial of HUMAN RIGHTS to those who wished to murder human beings .

 

[The Equalizer]

Where did I specifically say that?

I've made it clear that having a baby is a possible danger

So is crossing the road.

Can you just answer my questions please -

Do you think that maternal mortality rate is a justification for making abortion legal in Ireland?

What percentage of women do you think have an abortion because of a concern over their own health and safety?

to the mothers physical health and safety. Childbirth injuries and complications bear that out, as I have shown.

 

[Diarmuid]

No. Giving birth is one of the most dangerous things a woman can do.

According to a detailed Finnish study, having an abortion is FOUR TIMES more deadly for a woman than giving birth
.

The one year all causes death rate from childbirth is one in 4,000.
The one year all causes death rate from abortion is one in 1,000.

This study in itself proves that we must ban abortion again - to protect women's health.

 

[Haven]

So is crossing the road.

Can you just answer my questions please -

Do you think that maternal mortality rate is a justification for making abortion legal in Ireland?

Maternal mortality rate is directly tied to the availability of comprehensive medical care.
When abortion is completely criminalized, doctors are legally restricted from intervening during severe pregnancy complications until a woman is actively on the brink of death.

What percentage of women do you think have an abortion because of a concern over their own health and safety?

All of them.

Of course, there will always be other factors in a decision like that, but there is no right-minded woman who does not find the prospect of pregnancy and childbirth daunting and scary, no matter how happy or not they may be to be pregnant.

I've answered all your questions. I will leave it there.

 

[Tiger]

According to a detailed Finnish study, having an abortion is FOUR TIMES more deadly for a woman than giving birth
.

The one year all causes death rate from childbirth is one in 4,000.
The one year all causes death rate from abortion is one in 1,000.

This study in itself proves that we must ban abortion again - to protect women's health.

Pro abortionists don’t have the slightest interest in reality.

Just look at Haven tying himself up in knots (using AI) trying to justify wilful murder of the unborn in every case.

He started with defining mothers as ‘live support machines’ and then segued into babies being little unborn military enemies trying to wipe the mother out like internal bombs.

It’s a miracle any of us are alive at all.

 

[Tiger]

Maternal mortality rate is directly tied to the availability of comprehensive medical care.
When abortion is completely criminalized, doctors are legally restricted from intervening during severe pregnancy complications until a woman is actively on the brink of death.


All of them.

@Diarmuid

You can see here evidence of Haven’s (complete lack of a) grasp on reality

Of course, there will always be other factors in a decision like that, but there is no right-minded woman who does not find the prospect of pregnancy and childbirth daunting and scary, no matter how happy or not they may be to be pregnant.

I've answered all your questions. I will leave it there.

 

[Just Think]

Good God. AI 101 chopped to bits. Did the BBC write this?

"Maternal mortality rate is directly tied to the availability of comprehensive medical care.
When abortion is completely criminalized, doctors are legally restricted from intervening during severe pregnancy complications until a woman is actively on the brink of death."

 

[Tiger]

Good God. AI 101 chopped to bits. Did the BBC write this?

Maternal mortality rate is directly tied to the availability of comprehensive medical care.
When abortion is completely criminalized, doctors are legally restricted from intervening during severe pregnancy complications until a woman is actively on the brink of death.

Tank deviated into AI responses about 5 hours ago and hasn’t course corrected yet.

Presumably a rearguard action due to his position and credibility being completely demolished.

 

[Just Think]

So it seems it wasn't a septic tank after all.

"In its latest update, the Office of the Director of Authorised Intervention in Tuam (ODAIT) said all of the infants had been buried in coffins.

It brings to 77 the total number of individuals whose remains have been recovered since work began last summer.

Most have been found in an area that was marked on old maps as a burial ground."

Eight sets of infant remains recovered from Tuam site

A further eight sets of infant remains have been recovered from the site of the former Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, as excavation work continues.

www.rte.ie

I wonder was it the developer of the housing estate who destroyed this burial ground and said nothing?

Also.

"The first site contains indications of burials from the workhouse era, likely the famine era."

 

[The Equalizer]

Maternal mortality rate is directly tied to the availability of comprehensive medical care.

Correct

When abortion is completely criminalized, doctors are legally restricted from intervening during severe pregnancy complications until a woman is actively on the brink of death.

lol Is that what Saint Sativa told you?

All of them.

Wrong

In most cases, women kill their babies in the womb because they don't want to have them and take responsibility for them..

Of course, there will always be other factors in a decision like that, but there is no right-minded woman who does not find the prospect of pregnancy and childbirth daunting and scary, no matter how happy or not they may be to be pregnant.

I've answered all your questions. I will leave it there.

 

[Haven]

So is crossing the road.

Sorry, I had to come back to this.
James, you do look both ways before crossing the road?

 

[Tiger]

Sorry, I had to come back to this.
James, you do look both ways before crossing the road?

That’s the first non AI answer in several hours.

Well done.

 

[Haven]

Correct


lol Is that what Saint Sativa told you?


Wrong

In most cases, women kill their babies in the womb because they don't want to have them and take responsibility for them..

James, since I"ve supplied evidence for what I have discusssd, and you have not, I do think this is over for you.

 

[Tiger]

Correct


lol Is that what Saint Sativa told you?

It’s what Microsoft Co Pilot told him

 

[Haven]

That’s the first non AI answer in several hours.

Well done.

Hold on...

"Sorry—I had to come back to this."

Fixed.

 

[Haven]

lol Is that what Saint Sativa told you?

I never met her.

She died.

 

[Just Think]

I never met her.

She died.

Who cares? Apart from the abortionists who used her sad demise to push their sick killing agenda?
13,000 Irish babies were killed in Ireland last year, abortionists must be so happy.

 

[BIG FAT HOOR]

So it seems it wasn't a septic tank after all.

"In its latest update, the Office of the Director of Authorised Intervention in Tuam (ODAIT) said all of the infants had been buried in coffins.

It brings to 77 the total number of individuals whose remains have been recovered since work began last summer.

Most have been found in an area that was marked on old maps as a burial ground."

Eight sets of infant remains recovered from Tuam site

A further eight sets of infant remains have been recovered from the site of the former Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, as excavation work continues.

www.rte.ie

I wonder was it the developer of the housing estate who destroyed this burial ground and said nothing?

Also.

"The first site contains indications of burials from the workhouse era, likely the famine era."

why do i know nothing of this --i never knew there was a contractor who dug the place up i never knew about the coffins being used -nor did i know about the ossary built for the remains .
this is a weird sick country.