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"Alhamdulillah the child was saved" And then they chant "Allahu Akbar"

Are these people for real?
 

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Turkey: Couple saved 296 hours after quake, but children die​


 

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I was somewhat glib in response to the OP earlier in the year regarding another natural disaster.

Libya is the third cataclysmic event to happen in that part of the World this year.

Would Ms Catherine be able to tell me how Muslims come to terms with these unexplainable catastrophes in their lands?

If a man is going to Mosque 3 times a day, washing his feet and hands all the time, abstaining from all sorts of niceties, fasting for long periods and praying constantly.........What does he make of this when the degenerate kuffar in the west seems to get away scot free?
 

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Would Ms Catherine be able to tell me how Muslims come to terms with these unexplainable catastrophes in their lands?

They are not unexplainable- it is the laws of nature or the Will of God or both. If you are a pious Muslim it is the Will of God and that is that, you throw your hands up, bitch and moan, but it does not create some existential crisis.

Muslims unless they have been Westernized do not have this whole "problem of evil" thing. Which is one of the reasons that I like them- or at least certain types of them.
 

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Why don't they ditch all the pious rituals etc if its an obvious waste of time?
 

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Why don't they ditch all the pious rituals etc if its an obvious waste of time?

Firstly define waste of time- in this worldly terms all the pious rituals handed down by the State over Covid and obeying them made a lot of people happy. Very happy indeed. Watching that made me respect Sharia and Halakha more, a lot more.

In orthodox Islam you existed before this life and you will exist after it- this life is just a test and not the be all and end all. The pious rituals are supposedly about being true to your inner most nature most of all.
 

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Why don't they ditch all the pious rituals etc if its an obvious waste of time?

Muslims or at least a large majority of Muslims do not believe in Original Sin, everyone is born a Muslim, all animals are Muslims. The pious rituals,etc are seen by many Muslims as being loyal to the Fitrah or inner most human nature.
 

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I still don't see how they can reconcile that when they see their wife and 4 kids along with 12,000 of their townsfolk washed away in a flood while fat Yanks stuff their face with steak and jerk off to porn and have a great time with no such wrath of God visited upon them.
 

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I still don't see how they can reconcile that when they see their wife and 4 kids along with 12,000 of their townsfolk washed away in a flood while fat Yanks stuff their face with steak and jerk off to porn and have a great time with no such wrath of God visited upon them.

"Allah knows you do not"- who knows what the fat Yanks will face after death and it is appointed for us all to die, sometimes things can be terrible at the time but afterwards you discover they were Blessing in disguise. All of us have a very skewed, very limited view of things- it is always good to remember that.
 

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Miss, as the bride and groom united in holy matrimony (Nikah) under the laws of Allah the whole place went up like a match with 100 burned alive.

What do the surviving Muslims make God's law in this instance?

 

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Miss, as the bride and groom united in holy matrimony (Nikah) under the laws of Allah the whole place went up like a match with 100 burned alive.

What do the surviving Muslims make God's law in this instance?


I am pretty sure that was a Christian wedding.
 

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Ms Catherine, I've chastised you about Islam long enough.

How about this one which is spiritually closer to home.

Church collapses during Mass killing 11


There are no promises in the New Testament that Christians will be spared suffering in this world. Quite the reverse in fact.
 

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