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Well atthe moment, the printing is reversed.
 
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valamhic said:
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"I don't care what you choose to believe."

I am sick trying to tell posters that these sites are not care homes or nursing homes. What posters care about has no relevance to assessing this war. an incident in Ukraine is not dependent on what a poster here cares about. I am here to talk about this war's progress and try to assess what will happen next based on available in formation and the views of all posters here.

I believe Hitler made a serious mistake to attack two fronts at once in WW2. Putin got the Crimea, he had it with little consequences.
He could have taken about 15% of Uke and then given some back in negotiations keeping say 9%. Instead he got greedy and it looks to me that he is bogged down exactly where the west and Zelensky want him.

It is highly likely Finland and Sweden will join NATO soon. Talk about an own goal.
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Do you have any hard factual proof of your claim? Like everyone else, NO!
Because there is none. Doctored videos are not proof. Just like the computer game of the elite Russian helicopters being shot down. It didn't happen.
So, stop pushing opinions and what ifs as facts. Gossip nor opinions are facts. When retarded bastards sit themselves down and educate themselves on these simple things they can then move on to more complex things, like 1+1=2!
 
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valamhic said:
You said you do not care what I believe. What you care is irrelevant. Care is for nursing homes and if you want care to be discussed, start a care home thread.
The first victim of war is the truth. When one is not involved or constrained by the war, one can assess. There is a real situation
in Russia, the Ukraine and in the west. I want to know what that situation is. I will not accept censorship by any of the three parties mentioned or from you.
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I gave you facts, not tried to censor you. You're the one waffling on with shite opinions of which you have not 1 shred of factual evidence of.
America is in charge of the Ukrainian Army. It's being armed by NATO. Russia is systematically destroying the Ukrainian military and Western weapons sent in to prolong the conflict because they're too chicken shit to go toe to toe with Vladimir Putin. Hence the Western media smear campaign and a complete alternative fantasy reality being pushed for the "slava Ukraini" wannabe trendy fuckin window lickers to lap up along with the video game and doctored video proof.
All cheering along as their governments steals boats and assets of Russians.
The last time something like this happened was in Germany when Jewish property and assets were seized "for the greater good".
Socialists are a breed with traits that never leave them. No matter where they are. We now have international Socialists instead of National Socialists.
I don't see any uproar from the same people over US and NATO invading- Nicaragua, Japan, Iraq, Kuwait, Korea, Panama, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Afghanistan, Bosnia.
Bombed- China, Guatemala, Indonesia, Congo, Dominican Republic, Peru, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lebanon, Grenada, Libya, El Salvador, Somalia, Iran, Sudan and Yugoslavia.
The U.S. and its allies have dropped over 337,000 bombs and missiles, or 46 per day, on nine countries since 2001 alone. The first 24 days of Russia’s bombing of Ukraine was less destructive than the first day of U.S. bombing in Iraq in 2003.
The problem in the West is Western leaders needing to expand to feed the system they created which can't support itself without extorting and pillaging poorer countries. First they promise them better economy and more jobs. Then they plunder their resources of value while giving them fuck all in return. Give them regime change and some democracy perhaps.
It would suit you better to pick up a good book on cluster B personality disorders and read while you're nodding off so you know exactly what you're looking at in the real world around you.
You're being gaslighted.
 
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valamhic said:
I am deliberately staying away from who is right or wrong in this. I am debating here how this war is progressing. I believe Putin will not
be got rid of in Russia in the next 5 years. The question is how will this war progress and I believe Russia will struggle to take all of Ukraine by
brute force. It could develop into all out war.
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Russia has less than 50% of their army in Ukraine. Ukraine has no answer for it. That's why Zelensky is trying to manipulate the West and NATO into the conflict. He lied about 3000 dead Ukrainian soldiers, leaving out at least 22.000. Not including all the vehicles, planes and helicopters destroyed. Russia is doing target practice on the incoming Western weapons. Slovakia's missile system lasted a day or 2 before it was completely destroyed.
The Russian army is going through the place with a fine tooth comb to gather evidence for criminal cases relating to bio labs and other things. They're also trying to limit civilian casualties, unlike Western media has everyone believing.
Western media left Russia within hours of 15 years in prison for malicious propaganda being made law. They're all back over here lying to us without consequences.
The only hope Ukraine has is to get NATO directly involved. Their NATO weapons caches in Western Ukraine were hit with missiles yesterday in the supposed secret storage facilities. The weapons intercepted or seized to date from the West has armed the Donbass region and is being used on Ukrainian army.
Russia isn't struggling at all, it's the Western media projecting Western leaders incompetence on Russia and Vladimir Putin. You can look up that term in your new book.
 
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It looks like from about last Friday that the Russians have changed their tactics. I believe the small missiles and drones have defeated the tanks etc so the blitzkrieg failed. Now Russia has stopped advancing and instead must secure the areas they control. This is now much easier as the Ukrainians can not really attack.
The Ukrainians despite the rearming will run short of absolutely everything, presumably fuel.

I expect more and more good news for the Russians going forward. One by one now they will pound towns and after Mariupol being taken, it is over for Ukraine. They can not push the Russians out and Ukraine will starve .
Russian soil is basically not touched and supplies can be trucked in easily.
 
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valamhic said:
1) To clarify are you saying Russia will have captured all of the Ukraine? The whole country or just the eastern part?
2) Take a look at this map. Capturing Mariupol is the equivalent to Hitler capturing the channel Islands during world war two.

In three days time it will be two months since the invasion. You said it would all be over now. May 9th in only 19 days away, do you think
Russia will have control of all of Ukraine by then when the Russian celebration happens.
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No. Russia will control fully the areathey now control. The Ukrainians will be out of there militarily. That will be a good position for them and they have a land corridor to Crimea.

Maybe they will extend that to totally block Ukraine access to the Black Sea.

I think the end is in sight really. Russia has grabbed the territory necessary and Ukraine is in ruins.

Maybe the Russians will call a ceasefire on May 9th but they have no reason to do that before then.

The other side of the coin is, the war has shown that offense is very difficult and the advantage is defense and relatively cheap weapons.
 
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I watched a similiar one from that guy. He is persuasive in his view. And certainly Putin is fighting for the survival of his "tribe". I suspect posters like @Electricity dream of an irish putin.

I suspect and hope an irish microtribe springs up, somewhere down the road in the future.
 
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valamhic said:
The statement that that western media had to leave because Russia would sentence them to 15 years in prison speaks volumes. Warrior is saying that the truth about what is happening is what Putin says it is.

The Bio labs claims is nonsense. There were shenanigans between Ukraine and the Biden's for profit, OK. The Bio labs claim came from
the Wuhan Covid virus scare, That put it in the minds of the Russians.
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Just like the internal fire on the boat that you left out to suit your delusional opinions, you've left out malicious propaganda from my last statement to push the Putin is censoring delusion. No he's not. There's consequences for actions and bad behaviour. If you're publishing stuff to the public you better be able to back it up with facts. As I have asked you to do but you can't. You have gossip and opinions, nothing factual. If we had such high standards in the West, the place wouldn't be in the shit it's in. We would have a lot of politicians in prison for corruption, all quangos and NGO's gone.
Since you love Western Media so much, American Media confirmed the existence of the labs and Victoria Nuland also did, on the record in the US senate. So you're admitting you're a brainwashed fool.
Find some reputable YouTube channels to educate yourself with too by the way. You have way too much time on your hands and believe everything you see and are told by everyone without proof.
You're getting the Western Media biased propaganda from the people who want Ukraine to win and are creating the illusion. Because they have all banned everything Russian so you only get their edited side of the story. So you too are projecting shite on their behalf.
Don't bother trying to get clever with me, I'm smarter than you even while sleeping.
Off with you now and get that book
 
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Declan said:
I watched a similiar one from that guy. He is persuasive in his view. And certainly Putin is fighting for the survival of his "tribe". I suspect posters like @Electricity dream of an irish putin.

I suspect and hope an irish microtribe springs up, somewhere down the road in the future.
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I think Putin is fighting against NATO/The GAE (Global American Empire)/Globohomo whatever you want to call it.. How much of a eh, tribalist he is je sais pas.

Obviously all the sheeple support the current thing (because the fake news media tells them to) which is Ukraine, and I believe that the empire Russia is fighting against is the same empire that occupies our own lands. That in a nutshell I think is the reason he has a degree of "support" among the DR (Dissident Right).
 
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Nigerian Osarumen Izevbokun says it would be discriminatory and unfair if Irish authorities don't treat him as a Ukrainian. >“We made Ukraine our home, I had all my children in Ukraine, I had my business in Ukraine and I lost possessions like Ukrainians,” he says. One thing you didn't do...
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valamhic said:
Putin could do a much better job. He kills anyone who opposes him or is a likely future opponent to his rule. He would be better
trying to make his people prosperous while keeping out the climate fakery and globo homo parts of the process.
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Prosperous but weak and soft would be unlikely to survive though.
 
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valamhic said:
Russia is stealing their country from the Ukraine? Stealing is stealing. If you believe all or part of the Ukraine should be seceded to Russia,
why should the Irish government not be compelled to secede Northern Ireland to Britain for ever? Same principle.
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Where did I say that? You're presuming and making a complete dickhead of yourself again. You don't even know what the fucking war is about!
 
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valamhic said:
If you look at the history of Russia the thing that stands out is the idiotic selfish decisions its government made. An attempt was made to establish a Democratic Republic in 1917 but it was quenched by silly communists. The Soviet Union was a mad hysterical left wing government based on collectivisation. BULLS SHYTE.

Russia needs to be crushed and a new democratic order established. However the present conflict is mamma from Heaven to me. I am a democrat. The impending war and economic collapse may mean an end to cultural Marxism and greenism
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You need to mind your own fucking business along with the crayon chewing dribbling window lickers that are of absolutely no relevance on the world stage of global geopolitics. You're obviously another ignorant and opinionated dunce. Which is the reason you nor the majority of the other imbeciles have any power or say thankfully or we'd all be choking on nuclear explosion fumes by now. You make the retarded leaders we do have look a small bit intelligent.
You want Russia and Putin to bend over to manipulation and bullshite like you have? Obviously not happening.
Here's something for you to watch, your media buddies making a complete dick of themselves all over the place with their own words..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDWuZXnv_Q
 
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valamhic said:
Putin invaded Ukraine. Britain invaded Ireland. Tell me what the difference is? I want Putin arrested and tried for war crimes. I want
a security situation where Russia can never invade its neighbours again. Meanwhile

There is good news

www.breitbart.com

Ukraine given no whole aircraft from allies, only parts: Pentagon - Breitbart

The US Defense Department on Wednesday retracted its claim Ukraine had been supplied with more aircraft, saying only parts had been delivered to enable
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
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For a start we didn't have a peace agreement made in Minsk 8 years ago to be honoured and an alcoholic coke head who was stringing Putin along and then gave him the middle finger to show off to US and Britain because he thought they would steam in behind him. Nor did we have EU, US and UK meddling in the aforementioned agreement behind the scenes.
Russians do as they say and say as they do. Putin rolled across the border and this is where we are. Consequences for the bad behaviour of a coke head president.
So now, the majority of people in Northern Ireland want to stay with England. Donbass residents want to stay with Russia. Crimea was Russian but they gave it to Ukraine as a good will gesture when they gave Ukraine independence. They wanted to split from Ukraine again and an election was held. That is freedom and democracy. In the Western definition. So what the fuck are you whinging about?
What about the 14,000 slaughtered in Donbass by Ukrainian forces over the last 8 years while Putin was being ignored by EU, NATO, UN, Zelensky and others when he was trying to find a peaceful resolution?
Who are you to say the people of Northern Ireland should be forced to do something they don't want to and especially who the fuck are you to say anything about what Ukrainians or Russians want over there?
You first need to learn what a war crime is, then you have to prove it. If invading somewhere was a war crime US and Britain would have no politicians left. As you have absolutely no grasp of reality you definitely don't have power of life and death over a world leader. Or anyone else thankfully.
You're a nobody of no importance, you eat, shit and make noise somewhere. Same as the other millions of internet weirdos that think they're something special and important.
 
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valamhic said:
You write so much crap that it is impossible for me to answer it all. My point is Russia has no business invading an foreign any other country.
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No, you just have no answers for the questions because you're a libtard shithead who lives in makey uppey land and are full of absolute bollox.
Not 1 fact have you been able to provide to refute anything I said.
So, answer me these simple questions. It's yes or no.
Would you allow your neighbour to allow your enemies to put nuclear weapons on your garden fence pointing into your garden after they officially agreed not to? Would you then trust a liar and your enemies not to use them on you after?
Yes on no?
 
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valamhic said:
It is high time Ireland established a unit of military volunteers to help Ukraine. I believe now that this conflict will develop so that NATO
and several western will be drawn into it. Putin will resort to nuclear attacks.
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What's Ireland going to send? Some tranniies and queers?
 
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valamhic said:
The Moscow was sunk by Ukrainian missile. It is admitted now.


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Again, this is not proof of anything. Some lad said something is gossip and opinion.
You're another arsehole using gossip and opinion as fact. Where's the fucking proof?
Hillary Clinton was 98% to win the US election, Hunter Biden's laptop was "Russian disinformation", which is now actually true. Hillary Clinton and the DNC have received fines for making up the "Russian dossier" on Donald Trump.
Irish media and politicians are blaming Irish society for the murder in Sligo of 2 gay men. Irish media blamed Irish men for the murder of Aisling Murphy.
German media are blaming right wing demos for the Muslims rioting in Sweden.
 
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valamhic said:
The system I use is to hear all information and to assess it, even CNN and RTE get the weather forecast right most days.
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lol We're not talking about the weather forecast.. We're talking about a particular subject that CNN and RTE has the propaganda ramped up as much for as it would any other
 
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valamhic said:
An addmission is proof enough. 10 million vessels have passed through the Panama canal since it opened. One large one sinking would
block it for a long time. None sank. There was no storm at all.
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It may be proof enough for an addle brained imbecile but anyone that wants to know what's actually going on looks for actual factual and visible proof on both sides and confirms the information before believing it and taking it into consideration.
There's plenty of proof you're a retard that's full of shite on here, that's about it. I won't be taking anything you post seriously on any other issues.

It should have read admission, not addition
 
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valamhic said:
There is virtually no other source. It is not all fake. There is a war, there is potential nuclear war, a battle ship did sink,
Last Hurray here wants to go to Russia on holiday, Russia did fire a new missile yesterday, Oil prices are very high as predicted in the media.

I cannot be expected to do without news, just because some of it is fake.
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Russia has been firing new supersonic missiles since the beginning and NATO absolutely shit themselves. It's hilarious.
 
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valamhic said:
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Name a source of news available in Ireland which is 100% independent and which does not alter any news to bring it
into compliance with the perception of it by the audiences.
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I'm not sure what the second part means but the MSM in Ireland is fake news, all of it.

I don't really pay much attention to it, particularly on issues like this, the scamdemic, the far right etc.
 
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valamhic said:
There is virtually no other source. It is not all fake. There is a war, there is potential nuclear war, a battle ship did sink,
Last Hurray here wants to go to Russia on holiday, Russia did fire a new missile yesterday, Oil prices are very high as predicted in the media.

I cannot be expected to do without news, just because some of it is fake.
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Not me who said that Val, not that I'd be adverse to a trip to Russia, when the time is right, it's a country I'd be very interested in visiting.
 
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Electricity said:
I'm not sure what the second part means but the MSM in Ireland is fake news, all of it.

I don't really pay much attention to it, particularly on issues like this, the scamdemic, the far right etc.
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So every single news report on Rte, Newstalk, Virgin, Today FM, etc etc is all totally fake and made up.
Get up the yard James, ffs...
 
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Thelasthurrah said:
So every single news report on Rte, Newstalk, Virgin, Today FM, etc etc is all totally fake and made up.
Get up the yard James, ffs...
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I didn't say that. Like most people who believe that fake news is real news you don't really understand what's meant by fake news. It's one-sided propaganda, you had it for two fucking years non-stop with the scamdemic.
 
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So how much of Ukraine has Russia taken control of so far? What percentage? If they are so well armed, I would expect at least 50%.

Give your answer to the nearest 4 %.
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It was double the size of Britain a couple of days ago. Whatever percentage that is. Why would they want 50% of it?
They're liberating the Russian Ukrainians that don't want to be connected to the West and EU. By peoples votes in those regions.
That will leave the rest landlocked and Zelensky will have to get Russian permission to use the sea ports.
 
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valamhic said:

proof the russian ship was sunk by missile you tiube - Search Videos

www.bing.com www.bing.com
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A video that has the word "proof" in it.
People who make propaganda are very good with photoshop and technology.
I've seen all sorts of "proof" but none of it can be verified with facts.
A YouTube video with the word "proof" in it and some weird drum music doesn't mean it's real. You can find videos proving Bigfoot is real and that the Earth is fucking flat on YouTube for fuck sake.
You're believing what you want to believe which is an illusion and there's no talking to you because you're the stereotypical ignorant thick Paddy.
 
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Thelasthurrah said:
So every single news report on Rte, Newstalk, Virgin, Today FM, etc etc is all totally fake and made up.
Get up the yard James, ffs...
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Like they don't run with a narrative or anything. Not 1 bit biased either.
Donald Trump was apparently connected to Russia with a dossier. Did they correct the story by saying that Hillary Clinton was fined for making that dossier to frame Trump? No.
Irish men murdered Aisling Murphy.
Irish society killed 2 gay men in Sligo.
Do you like being a murderer because your masters say you are?
I for 1 don't trust fuckin liars and when I catch them once I won't believe them on anything else.
You're free to be an idiot all you want.
 
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valamhic said:
The Moscow was hit by Neptune missiles.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-JLElq2aYc
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Another fucking opinion video. Where is the proof of the fact?
If you take a shit there's proof of it. There's no proof of the ship being sunk by a neptune missile because most of the Ukrainian's very tiny sea fleet has already been destroyed or taken.
They had to use a merchant ship to try get to Azovstal in a desperate attempt to get whoever is in there out after they lost 6 or 8 helicopters, pilots and soldiers in previous attempts.
 

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