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If I had a political party in Ireland on 78% I would run for election with other members. Putin says he has 78% support,
but hold not election.
You won't get a party with that support in Ireland because the Irish are petty, thick, spineless, gossiping, drunken and drugged up spastics.
The population has been diluted massively and the media will destroy the credibility of anyone that doesn't sign the INAR anti-racist shite. Ireland is controlled by quangos and NGO's.
 
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More liberal hypocrisy. Australia will have to invade and occupy to stop this. It's alright when they do it.


"Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said that China's construction of a military base in the Solomon Islands would be a "red line".

Beijing and the authorities of the island state have previously signed a framework agreement on cooperation in the field of security.

"We will not have Chinese naval bases in our region on our doorstep," Morrison said".
 

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Germany, Austria and others are cancelling their ban on Russian oil, or trying to step away from it by the looks of it because they now realise the consequences of their emotionally reactive knee jerking.
Didn't Russia agree to leave Kiev and Chernigov as part of an agreement made in Turkey with Ukrainian officials?
They regrouped and sent troops to Donbass before Kiev started hitting Belgorod in Russia. Then more missiles took out weapons storage facilities in and around Kiev.
Kiev is a diversionary tactic possibly. Obviously Ukraine doesn't want to lose it and will reinforce it heavily. Less troops in Donbass.
A new iron curtain is falling with Finland joining NATO. We don't know where the line in Ukraine will be yet but the vultures are already in there for their slice of the pie as expected.
It's still the land grab but they won't get all Ukraine. They'll get a bankrupt Western part that they'll have to rebuild while their populations are dealing with the fallout of their sanctions.
I see war bonds are now "peace bonds". More word play.
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Certain I have seen elsewhere the opinion that Kiev was a feint attack. That is a small number of troops distracting a large number of enemy while while the real attack takes place elsewhere.

I feel Russia believes with justification that it has now won and might be hoping that Zellensky is ousted.

Now the question is how much land they take. At a minimum, what they now hold almost, and at a max, everything East of the river. That leaves a rump that the West will totally bankrupt themselves by bankrolling forever.

Putin now sees the West flooded with refugees and they bring a huge burden.

We begin month three and now this realization will hit people in Ireland and we will see how generous they are now.
 
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The shelling of ethnic Russian villages in Eastern Ukraine and wholesale discrimination against them since 2014 have given the Russians a clear casus belli. The Ukes slaughtered 14,000 Russian civilians in the process and now they are paying the reckoning.

The below which are well documented mainstream sources explain why Putin went in and it was not anything to do with "Gay Rights", also he tried his best to avoid this situation. There are other reasons as well of course but the below are the main ones as far as I can tell.


 
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Hard to sympathise with Russia when you see the way they are indiscriminately bombing residential areas. They've basically reduced Mariupol to rubble and are refusing to provide safe corridors for civilians. I don't doubt that Russia have legitimate grievances, or that the Ukraine/Nato alliance aren't angels, but I do object to the partisan cheering for "our" side, as if its a football match. I think that is evident mostly on the Russian side.
 
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Hard to sympathise with Russia when you see the way they are indiscriminately bombing residential areas. They've basically reduced Mariupol to rubble and are refusing to provide safe corridors for civilians. I don't doubt that Russia have legitimate grievances, or that the Ukraine/Nato alliance aren't angels, but I do object to the partisan cheering for "our" side, as if its a football match. I think that is evident mostly on the Russian side.
But they're not indiscriminately bombing civilian areas when the Ukrainians won't let civilians leave. They're using them as human shields while firing mortars etc from the cover of the civilian buildings, using playschools, hospitals as barracks and shopping centres as weapons storage facilities. Western governments are sending weapons on passenger trains loaded with civilians to stop the Russians picking them off like they have been doing to stop the supply of Western weapons that are prolonging the war and causing more death and damage.
That's exactly why it's taking so long, Russia is trying to minimise civilian casualties.
 
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Certain I have seen elsewhere the opinion that Kiev was a feint attack. That is a small number of troops distracting a large number of enemy while while the real attack takes place elsewhere.

I feel Russia believes with justification that it has now won and might be hoping that Zellensky is ousted.

Now the question is how much land they take. At a minimum, what they now hold almost, and at a max, everything East of the river. That leaves a rump that the West will totally bankrupt themselves by bankrolling forever.

Putin now sees the West flooded with refugees and they bring a huge burden.

We begin month three and now this realization will hit people in Ireland and we will see how generous they are now.
There have been objections to Ukraine joining EU by some countries now. Austria if I'm not mistaken.
I have heard of Russian officials saying they're taking the belt down the East and South to connect with a Russian speaking settlement in Moldova.
Putin will be glad to get rid of 4.5 million liberal trash Zelensky voters. They're the only ones with enough money to buy themselves out at the border.
Irish politicians are being very generous. Giving themselves "emergency powers" to buy houses for the Ukrainians. It's getting very like Canada under Trudeau around here.
 
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The below which are well documented mainstream sources explain why Putin went in and it was not anything to do with "Gay Rights", also he tried his best to avoid this situation. There are other reasons as well of course but the below are the main ones as far as I can tell.


Not so long ago, Ukrainians were looking for information on drones that could carry 20/30 litre cannisters. Drones with a 30 litre cannister attached and others without cannisters have been found.
There's also reports of tests being done on Ukrainians with viruses trying to target Slavic genes.
If all this is true it's very likely US and Ukraine were going to get "regime change" in Russia by infecting Russia with a virus of some sort. They'd have the "vaccine" for people they wanted to keep of course.
 

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There have been objections to Ukraine joining EU by some countries now. Austria if I'm not mistaken.
I have heard of Russian officials saying they're taking the belt down the East and South to connect with a Russian speaking settlement in Moldova.
Putin will be glad to get rid of 4.5 million liberal trash Zelensky voters. They're the only ones with enough money to buy themselves out at the border.
Irish politicians are being very generous. Giving themselves "emergency powers" to buy houses for the Ukrainians. It's getting very like Canada under Trudeau around here.
If Russia is able to extend all the way to that disputed part of Moldova, the Europe is transformed.

As a little aside, listening to a farmer discussing getting a miserable 500 litres of diesel delivered, tells me that it is curtains for Ireland. Orlared had it on.

That keeps his 2 tractors going for a week if he spares it. The old traditional diesel tank held 300 gallons or about 1500 liters . Farmers and truckers, are parking up.
 
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If Russia is able to extend all the way to that disputed part of Moldova, the Europe is transformed.

As a little aside, listening to a farmer discussing getting a miserable 500 litres of diesel delivered, tells me that it is curtains for Ireland. Orlared had it on.

That keeps his 2 tractors going for a week if he spares it. The old traditional diesel tank held 300 gallons or about 1500 liters . Farmers and truckers, are parking up.
Diesel is more expensive than petrol by 10/12c per litre. A 90 Euro fill is now 150 Euro for me.
There'll be no crops, trucks or boats moving stuff at these prices.
Socialism always ends the same. We're gonna be the next Venezuela.
Some dizzy cunt will trot out the line next year that this wasn't real Socialism and we're off on the merry go round again.
 
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They got plenty of time to fix Russia and refused to do so.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAMz5kgb7V4

If you bothered to check any reputable sources you'd know that Russia is awash with foreign currency and the Rouble is trading at an all time high. EU has bent the knee to pay in Roubles. The Russian economy has almost recovered completely already while ours is in freefall.
Russia's economy is not like the Western economy. Which is exactly why the sanctions didn't work.
It's called projection.
But you can believe the opinion of some arsehole on YouTube.
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Why is all the wealth going to a few friends of Putin? What about the ordinary Joe Soap. ?
Have you any proof of that claim?
The Russian economy is domestic mainly, it takes money to make money.
Look at EU and American elites. No difference whatsoever. Except Russia hasn't nicked 300 billion in reserves in the biggest heist in human history.
What about you and me here in your fantasy land? I'm not a millionaire and you definitely ain't.
 
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The people do not get much of it
That's not proof of your claim.
Any country = Politicians, owners of businesses, workers.
What the fuck do you want?
Sit on your fat entitled hole watching YouTube videos thinking you know it all and get piles of cash?
It doesn't work that way.
Find some videos about basic economics.
 
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For a start I want free and fair elections properly supervised. If that had happened Putin would be out long ago. It is a dictatorship where one can be jailed for 15 years for stating their opinion.

The video makes the point that state enterprises were sold off to friend of government and n ot to the n highest bidder.
You should start at home in your quest for free and fair elections. FF and FG have swapped power for 100 years now and you're whinging about the Russians voting in Vladimir Putin in Russia. A country thousands of miles away that you've never been to nor ever will be. Our government sells off stuff to their friends. Look at Leo and his doctor friend not so long ago.
We would be much better off with a sensible dictator than the absolute fuckin morons we gave power to. Who are sanctioning Russia at our expense for something that's absolutely none of their business. That said, the war would have been over a month ago after the meeting between Russia and Ukraine in Turkey if Britain and America hadn't stuck their beaks in.
In reference to the 15 years for stating your opinion, that's wrong for the fourth or fifth time now. You can state your opinion all you want in a personal capacity. If you work for the media as a journalist you better be able to back your claims up with proof. The law was targeting Western media outlets in Russia for making malicious propaganda. They had wound down and left within 3 hours of the law being passed.
Because they're dribbling cunts like you that talk absolute shite and think you're opinions and gossip are facts without a shred of factual proof. You'd be much better off focusing on yourself and your glaring inadequacies than envying the leader of Russia with your shite.
 
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Most of what fled West are Zelensky voting liberal trash. Now taking up residence in trendy European cities if they can.

Zelensky actually ran on a ticket of doing something about the massive economic inequality and corruption in the Ukraine and patching things up with the Russian Federation- once in power though he proceeded to do the exact opposite. I am really convinced that he is a coke head, if you have ever had the misfortune to be around someone into cocaine and read up on him you can clearly see that drug at work in his veins. My husband calls him "that coke head catamite". Ukrainian "Liberalism" is not like "Liberalism" in Ireland, with them their "Liberalism" comes from looking at the West and seeing it is "Liberal" so believing that if they adopt "Liberalism" they will attract wealth to themselves- basically magical thinking. You should check out the below book to understand Zelensky.

 
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Zelensky actually ran on a ticket of doing something about the massive economic inequality and corruption in the Ukraine and patching things up with the Russian Federation- once in power though he proceeded to do the exact opposite. I am really convinced that he is a coke head, if you have ever had the misfortune to be around someone into cocaine and read up on him you can clearly see that drug at work in his veins. My husband calls him "that coke head catamite". Ukrainian "Liberalism" is not like "Liberalism" in Ireland, with them their "Liberalism" comes from looking at the West and seeing it is "Liberal" so believing that if they adopt "Liberalism" they will attract wealth to themselves- basically magical thinking. You should check out the below book to understand Zelensky.

Zelensky is a narcissist. Magical thinking, alcohol, drug abuse and a trail of destruction are traits which I think you'll agree are all there. Along with hoarding money, a need for validation, power and control. Ordering people to die for Ukraine, sending children to fight a professional army shows a lack of empathy.

In the Netherlands, they were interested in where Zelensky's multimillion-dollar fortune came from.

"Inconvenient" questions are asked by the local Forum for Democracy party.

The state of the President of Ukraine is estimated at $850 million. At the same time, his official salary in 2021 was $ 12 thousand.

How did Zelensky manage to get most of his fortune while serving as head of state, and where does he spend such money? The party asks on its official Twitter account.

At the end of March, the participants of the Forum for Democracy party refused to listen to the speech of the President of Ukraine in the Dutch Parliament.

They considered it inappropriate to make Zelensky "half-holy", given his involvement in "dubious financial affairs", including the "Panama Dossier".
 
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Irish elections are completely free and completely fair. There is a family on my road with 25 votes in the wider circle. All of those 25 votes go to
one FF candidate. Irish elections are not rigged. You and I don't like the result but that is what the people want.

Russian elections for president anyway are rigged because even if fairoy counted Putin murder's all opponents.
You think because the ballots may be (honestly and accurately) counted.. you live in a democracy? I pity you
 
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Irish elections are completely free and completely fair. There is a family on my road with 25 votes in the wider circle. All of those 25 votes go to
one FF candidate. Irish elections are not rigged. You and I don't like the result but that is what the people want.

Russian elections for president anyway are rigged because even if fairoy counted Putin murder's all opponents.
Are they? You have to sign an NGO agreement or you'll be slandered in all the papers and on social media as racist and far right.
Your election posters get ripped down off poles.
The public will elect you but the Socialists won't work with you, instead they'll make a coalition with the Greens to keep you out of power.
Destroying the country like they did in 2008.
You're possibly one of the biggest spastics I've ever come across.
3 second memory of a goldfish on repeat the RTE lines.
 
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That is for the Ukrainian voters to decide, Biden is crooked and so was Haughey, they are gone, Putin will never be gone.
It's for the Russians to decide who their president is. So shut the fuck up about it then.
 
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They do not get to decide, that is the problem.
Prove that with reliable and factual information that I can verify or that's your opinion. So shut up about it because you can't.
Russians love their president as do the people of Belarus. They don't like people like you.
Big mouth gobshites.
 
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It is two months now, how much of Ukraine does Russia Control?
How many times do you have to be told things? Are you senile or just that much in denial?
The answer is double the size of England. Whatever percentage of Ukraine that is.
You can work it out yourself so you have something productive to keep you occupied.
 

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It is two months now, how much of Ukraine does Russia Control?


It does look like NATO was asleep regarding the black sea

Russia controls the Donbass and about 3 times that again more. And it has a route to Crimea. It has everything it wants with the possible exception of a link to Moldova.

It can sit back now and watch Europe struggle and as soon as the autumn Comes, then it turns off the gas.
The west needs a miracle to win this now imo.
 

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If it is as successful as you and warrior claim, why did it aim for to take Kyiv and then retreat?

Looks to me like they were beaten back. How will Russia hold this ground with a hostile and well armed neighbour to the west?
1. It could have been a feint to prevent Ukrainians defending the east in force.
2. They may have hoped the Ukes would opt for negotiation.
3. They may have hoped the Ukes would have collapsed.
4. Some other reason.

But they have the East territory and it is hard to see them being dislodged with the advantage being on defense.
We shall see.
 
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You hardly believe Ukraine soldiers tied up their own people and shot them and this bollox finds it amusing? If he got a touch of me with my chainsaw he would not be so amused.
As I said, you're not very bright. He doesn't find anything amusing. More aghast at the lies being told by people like you that have no idea what's actually going on.
I'll have a chainsaw fight with you any day.
 
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One thing I am critical of Ukraine for is lack of preparation. 40 km of Russian military lorries crossed the border, These lorries had
pneumatic tyres. They were moving slowly. I would have had snipers with 5.56 mm telescopic rifles. A mix of bolt and semi auto actions.

Station 200 of them at the optimum locations 200 meters to 300 meters from the road side. Fire at the bottom of the tyre which measured 9 inches X 14inches. The front and rear tyres would be hit by one bullet and punctured. No one would be killed. It was a big miss.
The Pentagon, NATO, EU and UK have been training and arming Ukraine heavily for the last 8 years. And are getting their ass handed to them by about 20% of the Russian army as they keep pouring money and weapons into the fray. Fucking hilarious!
 
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1. It could have been a feint to prevent Ukrainians defending the east in force.
2. They may have hoped the Ukes would opt for negotiation.
3. They may have hoped the Ukes would have collapsed.
4. Some other reason.

But they have the East territory and it is hard to see them being dislodged with the advantage being on defense.
We shall see.
Kiev made an agreement in Turkey and then again failed to honour that agreement after Russia had disengaged Kiev.
I can see why Russia doesn't trust Kiev. They might be back yet.
 

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Explain this to me. The Ukes have and are being supplied with a range of artillery and drome's. The yanks are pinpointing Russian
entrenchments and informing the Ukes. These weapons have ranges up to 40 km 25 miles. What will stop the Ukes from edging closer
and closer and firing at the Russians. Over a month, they could take out 200 tanks and Russian artillery positions. The more troops the Russians
deploy the more targets there will be
Logistics for one. From the border to the front is about 500 miles or so and the bridges over the river are surely destroyed. It is the russians supply lines that are intact.

The objective is to win. Maybe that is why the Russians will now secure their territory.
 
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If that were so, those lorries would not have gotten in without one shot being fired.
Again, there was an agreement made in Minsk which Putin was honouring, the subversives were not. They were ignoring Russia and Putin for the last 8 years while slaughtering Russian speaking Ukrainians in the East and South which is why we now have the war you're complaining about. Demilitarisation of Ukraine by force.
 
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This'll put manners on Poland and Bulgaria. As on 24:00 tonight they'll be without gas.

"The Energy Ministry of Bulgaria reported that Gazprom informed Bulgargaz about the suspension of gas supplies from April 27"

"The Polish oil and gas company PGNIG received a notification from Gazprom that from the morning of April 27, the supply of Russian natural gas will be completely stopped"
 
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That is true. The west stopped Russia clearing payments for fuel. Russia then demanded payment in Rubbles because it was
prevented from converting it itself. That seems fair to me. In effect Europe wanted free fuel. Not on.

If you buy Russian fuel, you pay in Russian currency. There were contracts on dollars / Euros but a contract can be voided if one
side makes it impossible for the other to honour.
Western elites are narcissistic and entitled. They know no consequences for their bad behaviour.
They're used to bullying smaller countries with weak leadership.
They're already trying to muscle Elon Musk.
It's all about control.
 

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