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More and more heightened news regarding the inevitable Ukraine surrender :

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There is still considerable support in Europe for Ukraine.

Only amongst the political class and they are only taking their lead from the US. Down at ground level its a different story and some politicos are slowly waking up to that, but by no means all.
Europe has moved on to better jew current things.
Murdering brown people is more interesting for the millennium gimps.
 

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Ages old logic trumps Zitler warring ambitions, and if Peace can be made now then the Wusteners get to keep more of Ukraine? Russia probably has different plans though . . .
I think Russia is done negotiating. They may agree to extended talks while consolidating more territory . Russia obviously needs Ukraine out from under Western influence. This will involve complete conquest
 

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There is still considerable support in Europe for Ukraine.

Only amongst the political class and they are only taking their lead from the US. Down at ground level its a different story and some politicos are slowly waking up to that, but by no means all.
The German green's are a totally morally bankrupt disgrace.
Blood thirsty environmentalists.
The sheer lacking of any awareness of how diametrically opposed to the original ideas of the green's is incredible.
Demented ignorant hypocritics.
 
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More and more heightened news regarding the inevitable Ukraine surrender :

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"To encourage Zelensky to engage in negotiations, NATO may extend security guarantees to Ukraine, even without the country's formal entry into the alliance."

I think that would be Zelenskys starting demand from the West to even think about talking to Putin. Since Putin went to war to stop this from happening, it basically means the whole invasion was all for nothing.

With Finland and Sweden also joining, it has all served to increase NATO power, see a huge increase in Western defence spending while destroying half the Russia army and watching the Russian Navy abandon Sevastopol.

Maybe it's time for the West to cash in their chips. And time for Putin to stop the bleeding.
 
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Will there be a, Tax Benefit in that for Bono The Pox ? !
He's based in Holland for tax purposes.
We should all set up a company and do the same.
Don't say you wouldn't....you know you would.
Mirrors are good.
 

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How's Zitler's infamous 'Spring offensive' going?
500,000 innocent young Uki's dead...for what?😂
 

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"To encourage Zelensky to engage in negotiations, NATO may extend security guarantees to Ukraine, even without the country's formal entry into the alliance."

I think that would be Zelenskys starting demand from the West to even think about talking to Putin. Since Putin went to war to stop this from happening, it basically means the whole invasion was all for nothing.

With Finland and Sweden also joining, it has all served to increase NATO power, see a huge increase in Western defence spending while destroying half the Russia army and watching the Russian Navy abandon Sevastopol.

Maybe it's time for the West to cash in their chips. And time for Putin to stop the bleeding.
So the 'Putin will be ousted by his own as Ukraine sweep to victory, crushing the Russian Army and taking back all land plus Crimea' narrative has changed to...

'Ok Putin will not be ousted from Power, he'll keep Crimea and the newly annexed oblasts, Ukraine will never be in NATO, but NATO is stronger and some Russians died, so we've secured a massive victory'.

🙂

500,000 Ukrainians dead!

Being part of a US 'victory' must be so sweet, eh...🙄
 

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I think we've bigger fish to fry than a jumped up pop star.

The monster for foreign affairs Mehole doesn't get the sort of respect that Bumo gets from US presidents and both are doing/saying nothing to stop the creation of refugees

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So the 'Putin will be ousted by his own as Ukraine sweep to victory, crushing the Russian Army and taking back all land plus Crimea' narrative has changed to...

'Ok Putin will not be ousted from Power, he'll keep Crimea and the newly annexed oblasts, Ukraine will never be in NATO, but NATO is stronger and some Russians died, so we've secured a massive victory'.

🙂

500,000 Ukrainians dead!

Being part of a US 'victory' must be so sweet, eh...🙄
And the Eu weakened quite a lot = = America will be happy enough with its dirty dealings as usual !
 

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AFU brains trust wiped off the face of the Earth. 128th brigade was struck by a missile attack during an awards ceremony. 28 people--almost all officers, were destroyed.


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Well all know how much Jarry loves The Telegraph. Et Tu?

They end with...


Whatever happens, we – Britain – must continue to support the more noble, if difficult, pathway to ultimate victory. Give Ukraine the air superiority, combat engineering and artillery it needs to change the battlefield. For as things stand, only Putin may emerge victorious
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I've a feeling the last person on earth still believing in this 'victory' will be Jarry🙄
 

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