Weather Thread

[clarke-connolly]

Weather.

 

[jpc]

Another rough night on the way folk's.
Batten down the hatches.

 

[Professor]

Here you go @Myles O'Reilly - Don't be a FFGN wet hand wringer, try to understand Last years technology, Today!!

Flood victims fork out £100,000 to raise home 12ft off the ground on stilts

Sam and Dawn Ray (pictured), from Sandhurst, Glos, were repeated victims of flooding until they lifted their home onto stilts. After splashing £100k, the plan paid off during the latest floods.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mad as Fish]

Another rough night on the way folk's.
Batten down the hatches.

Great stuff, I do like a bit of real weather.

 

[valamhic]

Great stuff, I do like a bit of real weather.

It used to grow trees in forests which were home to wonderful animals, fish and birds. It gave England the
oak for their ships in the 1700 and 1800s when they stole those trees. Now it produces grain, potatoes
veggies dairy products etc which keeps us going. Without rain it would be desert.

Happy days Ireland

 

[Professor]

Without rain it would be desert.

Yeah but too much and it wrecks the gaff.

2020 - A Difficult Start to Spring for Sheep Farmers - Teagasc | Agriculture and Food Development Authority

www.teagasc.ie

 

[valamhic]

Yeah but too much and it wrecks the gaff.

2020 - A Difficult Start to Spring for Sheep Farmers - Teagasc | Agriculture and Food Development Authority

www.teagasc.ie

Never, unless you don't have a roof. If the tide went out, would you build a house along the sea line?

 

[valamhic]

In America, there are more people studying public relations than there are farming.

 

[Professor]

crazy rain reported by bot


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C5c5Jr7ZOaA

 

[Professor]

Another year of awful weather in many parts of Ireland, raining most everyday at some point, this year was quite unnatural and results in . . .

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest. Met Eireann data shows many stations have already exceeded the average annual total rainfall and others close to it. Now that we are in November, we are in extremely difficult territory with this much crop left to be harvested. The heavy rain has washed most of the clay off the top of the drills which leaves the crop more prone to frost damage. A few hard frosts at this point will wipe out entire crops.

In the U.K. more rain has made soils extremely wet again and there are growing concerns that some of the crop will not be lifted. From the Midlands northwards there are still a few growers with “in excess of 500 acres” to lift, including those who had planned ex field lifting of late varieties for processing.

Potato Market Update 8th November - Irish Farmers' Association

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest.

www.ifa.ie

 

[jpc]

Another year of awful weather in many parts of Ireland, raining most everyday at some point, this year was quite unnatural and results in . . .

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest. Met Eireann data shows many stations have already exceeded the average annual total rainfall and others close to it. Now that we are in November, we are in extremely difficult territory with this much crop left to be harvested. The heavy rain has washed most of the clay off the top of the drills which leaves the crop more prone to frost damage. A few hard frosts at this point will wipe out entire crops.

In the U.K. more rain has made soils extremely wet again and there are growing concerns that some of the crop will not be lifted. From the Midlands northwards there are still a few growers with “in excess of 500 acres” to lift, including those who had planned ex field lifting of late varieties for processing.

Potato Market Update 8th November - Irish Farmers' Association

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest.

www.ifa.ie

I don't think people realise the urgency of the situation for the potato industry.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Another year of awful weather in many parts of Ireland, raining most everyday at some point, this year was quite unnatural and results in . . .

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest. Met Eireann data shows many stations have already exceeded the average annual total rainfall and others close to it. Now that we are in November, we are in extremely difficult territory with this much crop left to be harvested. The heavy rain has washed most of the clay off the top of the drills which leaves the crop more prone to frost damage. A few hard frosts at this point will wipe out entire crops.

In the U.K. more rain has made soils extremely wet again and there are growing concerns that some of the crop will not be lifted. From the Midlands northwards there are still a few growers with “in excess of 500 acres” to lift, including those who had planned ex field lifting of late varieties for processing.

Potato Market Update 8th November - Irish Farmers' Association

Following another week of very wet weather, conditions are extremely challenging and very little harvesting is taking place. Losses have occurred already, which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest.

www.ifa.ie

Nothing unnatural whatsoever about a wet year, it's just the weather being the weather, can you compare it with 1523 or 2023BC? No, so how can you come to any conclusion about its naturalness or not?

Also, the weather tends to balance itself out over time and distance, we needn't worry about a spud shortage just yet -


Despite the challenging weather conditions, initial yield estimates suggest a return to multi-year averages. The NEPG estimates that growers will harvest around 23 million tonnes of early and maincrop potatoes. This is 1.3 million tons more than in 2022 and equal to the 2021 production.

European potato production overcomes challenges: NEPG’s 2023 season overview and harvest forecast

Despite facing challenging weather and late planting, the 2023 potato production shows promise. The North Western European Potato Growers (NEPG) predicts a harvest of 23 million tonnes, surpassing …

www.potatonewstoday.com

 

[Professor]

Also, the weather tends to balance itself out over time and distance, we needn't worry about a spud shortage just yet -

Some do, especially in Ireland . . .


Growers are warning of a potato shortage as they say this year’s harvest is the “worst in living memory”.

The potato harvest is “rapidly turning into a salvage operation” as drills are underwater following recent flooding, the Irish Farmers’ Association has warned.

IFA national potato committee chairman Sean Ryan said that as it stands, “around 60% of crop remains to be harvested”.
“Sizeable losses have occurred already which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest,” Mr Ryan said.

“Met Éireann data shows some stations have already exceeded the average annual total rainfall and others close to it. Now that we are in November, we are in extremely difficult territory with this much crop left to be harvested.”

Mr Ryan said that the heavy rain has “washed most of the clay off the top of the drills” leaving the crop more prone to frost damage.

“A few hard frosts at this point will wipe out entire crops,” he added.

Supply concerns
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Denis O’Connor, who grows potatoes in East Cork, has said that growers in the area are “all in the same boat” and that if there isn’t some dry weather before Christmas, “it will be very serious”.



“If we could get two or three dry weeks, definitely it would improve things but there’s a pile of damage after being done already,” Mr O’Connor said.

“Even if we do get dry weather, there’s going to be a huge loss. If they were all harvested in good conditions, they were going to be scarce, never mind with all the losses now.”

Water-logged potatoes in a field in East Cork. Picture: Denis Linehan
Normally, Mr O’Connor said he would be finished harvesting by October 31, “but this year, we’ve three weeks of work ahead of us yet”.

“If we had them in store there would be no bother as you would just be bagging out but if we get dry weather in December now, we’ll have to be harvesting and trying to pack them out.”

He added that the costs of harvesting have increased significantly as well for growers this year, adding to the “hardship” of it all.

Warnings of potential Irish potato shortage

The potato harvest is “rapidly turning into a salvage operation” as drills are underwater following recent flooding, the Irish Farmers’ Association has warned.

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[Professor]

eather unpredictability and above normal rainfall has made it a difficult year for the agricultural sector.


Most farmers were affected in some way or another and right now, potato growers are facing serious crop losses as waterlogged fields impede this year's harvest.


In a ten-hectare field just outside Enniscorthy, Co Wexford, potato grower Sean Ryan is assessing conditions.


As he walks between the drills, his boots squelch in three inches of water as this part of the potato field is waterlogged.


The drills, carefully prepared and planted back in the late spring are now soaked after months of rain that flows in rivulets between them.


It has been a challenging year, according to Mr Ryan.

Sean Ryan said this year has been a challenge
He said: "We were probably five to six weeks later planting, and we got a lot of rain all summer as well.


"It was a struggle all year long, and then we'd thought we'd get a good end, a good harvest but it just did not happen."

Potato farmers face serious crop losses as harvest hit

Weather unpredictability and above normal rainfall has made it a difficult year for the agricultural sector. Most farmers were affected in some way or another and right now, potato growers are facing serious crop losses as waterlogged fields impede this year's harvest.

www.rte.ie

 

[Professor]

The 2023 potato harvest has been branded as the “worst in recent memory”

2023 potato harvest 'worst in recent memory' - Agriland.ie

The 2023 potato harvest has been branded as the "worst in recent memory" by the IFA National Potato Committee chair Sean Ryan.

www.agriland.ie

 

[Professor]

All record wet weather related

‘The fields are too wet to harvest’: Farmers fear loss of crops due to record rainfall

‘Impossible’ July weather has created havoc for tillage production

www.irishtimes.com

Floods to 'put an end to the salvage effort that was harvest 2023'

"Increased targeted interventions are needed."

www.irishexaminer.com

Tillage Farmers Facing Huge Losses - Irish Farmers' Association

IFA National Grain Chairman Kieran McEvoy said many tillage farmers are facing into a serious loss-making situation, with feed spring barley and winter wheat incurring significant losses per acre, particularly on rented land. Analysis completed by IFA shows that a 2.6t/ac spring feed barley crop...

www.ifa.ie

 

[Mad as Fish]

Some do, especially in Ireland . . .


Growers are warning of a potato shortage as they say this year’s harvest is the “worst in living memory”.

The potato harvest is “rapidly turning into a salvage operation” as drills are underwater following recent flooding, the Irish Farmers’ Association has warned.

IFA national potato committee chairman Sean Ryan said that as it stands, “around 60% of crop remains to be harvested”.
“Sizeable losses have occurred already which are likely to substantially increase as we progress through the harvest,” Mr Ryan said.

“Met Éireann data shows some stations have already exceeded the average annual total rainfall and others close to it. Now that we are in November, we are in extremely difficult territory with this much crop left to be harvested.”

Mr Ryan said that the heavy rain has “washed most of the clay off the top of the drills” leaving the crop more prone to frost damage.

“A few hard frosts at this point will wipe out entire crops,” he added.

Supply concerns
s'


Denis O’Connor, who grows potatoes in East Cork, has said that growers in the area are “all in the same boat” and that if there isn’t some dry weather before Christmas, “it will be very serious”.



“If we could get two or three dry weeks, definitely it would improve things but there’s a pile of damage after being done already,” Mr O’Connor said.

“Even if we do get dry weather, there’s going to be a huge loss. If they were all harvested in good conditions, they were going to be scarce, never mind with all the losses now.”

Water-logged potatoes in a field in East Cork. Picture: Denis Linehan
Normally, Mr O’Connor said he would be finished harvesting by October 31, “but this year, we’ve three weeks of work ahead of us yet”.

“If we had them in store there would be no bother as you would just be bagging out but if we get dry weather in December now, we’ll have to be harvesting and trying to pack them out.”

He added that the costs of harvesting have increased significantly as well for growers this year, adding to the “hardship” of it all.

Warnings of potential Irish potato shortage

The potato harvest is “rapidly turning into a salvage operation” as drills are underwater following recent flooding, the Irish Farmers’ Association has warned.

www.irishexaminer.com

But there are 1.2m tonnes more potatoes in Europe than last year. Have you ever known a farmer who's not worried about something?

 

[Mad as Fish]

The 2023 potato harvest has been branded as the “worst in recent memory”

2023 potato harvest 'worst in recent memory' - Agriland.ie

The 2023 potato harvest has been branded as the "worst in recent memory" by the IFA National Potato Committee chair Sean Ryan.

www.agriland.ie

What about before recent memory?

 

[Mad as Fish]

All record wet weather related

‘The fields are too wet to harvest’: Farmers fear loss of crops due to record rainfall

‘Impossible’ July weather has created havoc for tillage production

www.irishtimes.com

Floods to 'put an end to the salvage effort that was harvest 2023'

"Increased targeted interventions are needed."

www.irishexaminer.com

Tillage Farmers Facing Huge Losses - Irish Farmers' Association

IFA National Grain Chairman Kieran McEvoy said many tillage farmers are facing into a serious loss-making situation, with feed spring barley and winter wheat incurring significant losses per acre, particularly on rented land. Analysis completed by IFA shows that a 2.6t/ac spring feed barley crop...

www.ifa.ie

So what, it's a wet year. Ask the dairy farmers about May and June, they had a brilliant season for the silage harvest, probably the best in living memory in fact.

 

[Professor]

So what, it's a wet year.

It's another wet year and it's impact is noted in the adverse, the minister's being asked to rescue tillage farming.
Of course it's not all bad and good for some as you say but there is a trend toward increased periods of rain.
Actually I remember discussing this exact same thing last year on P.ish - probably with you too

From 2022 Title: Slow and difficult finish to costly potato harvest
There are still potatoes to be dug across the country and conditions are very wet, making grading and storage difficult.

Slow and difficult finish to costly potato harvest

There are still potatoes to be dug across the country and conditions are very wet, making grading and storage difficult.

www.farmersjournal.ie

Same as this year but this year it's worse.