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Yep, they can never be trusted.
Interesting that he's come out so strongly against them though.
We'll see what happens.
It's all Kabuki theater.
Unless he's been totally deceived by the Israelis or allowed himself to be led into this debacle.
And or the Israelis think that they can carry on as normal.
The Israelis have never been pummelled like this before regardless of the battering they have inflicted on the Iranians.
And more to the point the Israeli economy has been destroyed.
How long will Netanyahu survive politically?
This has not gone as per plan.
 

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It's all Kabuki theater.
Unless he's been totally deceived by the Israelis or allowed himself to be led into this debacle.
And or the Israelis think that they can carry on as normal.
The Israelis have never been pummelled like this before regardless of the battering they have inflicted on the Iranians.
And more to the point the Israeli economy has been destroyed.
How long will Netanyahu survive politically?
This has not gone as per plan.
I've not see much, if anything, on the damage inflicted on Israel, have you a link at all?
 

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Filthy zionist jews!

Israel’s moral collapse: Strategy doesn’t require dead children​

You don’t stop a nuclear program by deliberately targeting families. You just abandon the idea that anything is off-limits.
By Nadezhda Romanenko, political analyst
Israel’s moral collapse: Strategy doesn’t require dead children

The view from a living room of a residential building that was destroyed in an attack by Israel on June 13, 2025 in Tehran, Iran. © Majid Saeedi/Getty Images


The recent revelation that Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Sadati-Armaki was killed along with his entire family – his wife, two daughters, and son – in an Israeli airstrike should stop even hardened strategists in their tracks. This wasn’t just a precision strike. It was an execution of a household.
Sadati-Armaki was not a senior official. He was a mid-level scientist—an engineer working within Iran’s nuclear framework. That role may have made him a target in the logic of modern conflict. But nothing, not even that logic, can justify killing his children in their own home.
This wasn’t an isolated incident. On June 13, at least five other nuclear scientists were killed in Israeli strikes across Tehran: Fereydoon Abbasi, Mohammad Mehdi Tehranchi, Abdolhamid Minouchehr, Ahmadreza Zolfaghari Daryani, and Seyed Amir Hossein Feghhi. Their credentials tied them to Iran’s nuclear program. All had played some role, technical or administrative, in Iran’s nuclear development. None were combatants. Most were academics. Some had already retired from state positions.
Crucially, they weren’t alone. In multiple reported cases, family members died alongside them. Wives. Daughters. The daughter of a senior official.

These were not errant missiles landing in crowded urban spaces. These were targeted strikes on homes, in residential areas, at night, when families were together. This isn’t the fog of war. It is its deliberate weaponization. The children didn’t make enrichment policy. The spouses didn’t oversee uranium labs. But they died because of proximity—because they were related to someone deemed dangerous.
To call this “collateral damage” is cowardice. When decision-makers approve a strike on a home, knowing who sleeps inside, the outcome is no longer an accident. It is a choice.
Some argue that in an asymmetrical war, deterrence must be personal. But this is not deterrence—it’s liquidation. It suggests that no civilian life adjacent to state infrastructure is worth preserving. It sends the message that not even scientists’ families will be spared, as if moral limits are luxuries we can no longer afford.
Iranian nuclear scientist Seyyed Mostafa Sadati-Armaki and his family.
This is not a defense of Iran’s nuclear posture. It is a defense of the basic principle that families—children—cannot be combatants. If we abandon that line, we are not winning anything. We are declaring that fear is stronger than law, that vengeance is smarter than diplomacy.
Killing scientists’ families doesn’t dismantle programs. It doesn’t prevent future threats. It only makes peace more remote and retaliation more likely. What we normalize now, others will imitate later.
READ MORE: Deterrence or death: Israel is making the case for a nuclear-armed Iran
This is not strength. It is strategic and moral collapse. And if this is where warfare is headed, then everyone—regardless of nationality—should be deeply, urgently afraid.
 
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I've not see much, if anything, on the damage inflicted on Israel, have you a link at all?
Very good point

They have a very heavy media lock down wrt the damage being done.
There's some utube taken from an Indian cargo ship off Haiefa that was pretty devastating.
Ironically Iran had hacked some of the security cameras in Israel and were using the information to plan strikes.
 

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Here is the economic toll of the conflict for Israel:
Israel has a huge concentration of tech companies, if a number of those were taken out then I'd say that list is on the conservative side and billions have been slashed from the economy not just a few hundred million here and there.

Edit.

Here we go, the top ten are worth $94 billion.

 
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It might be true that right-wing extremism is similar to left-wing extremism.

In school for a long time I was going further to the left from the centre & at some point I was on the extreme of the right. I'll probably return to the centre as I get older.
 

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I mean, it's common knowledge.


Not to piss heads obviously.
 

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I mean, it's common knowledge.


Not to piss heads obviously.
lol

So you were talking solely historically?
 

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Piss head cannot understand using the term 'jew nazis' as a derogatory term for the current zionist scum running Israel is just that.
The comparisons are obvious but being a binary drunkard means it cannot see it.
What a fucking idiot.🤡
 

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Piss head cannot understand using the term 'jew nazis' as a derogatory term
Who else uses it as a "derogatory term" and for whom, retard?

for the current zionist scum running Israel is just that.
The comparisons are obvious but being a binary drunkard means it cannot see it.
What a fucking idiot.🤡
 

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Piss head won't be dragging me into his drunken arguments so he can go running to its protector mammy mod......again!:cool:
 

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Piss head won't be dragging me into his drunken arguments so he can go running to its protector mammy mod......again!:cool:
Nazi scum! Off our streets!
Nazi scum! Off our streets!
Nazi scum! Off our streets!


You're a fucken idiot
 

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As the question was put before, what exactly was achieved?

This passage stood out for me -

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

For the WH press secretary to sink to the level of Facebook in describing the whistleblower as - an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community, suggests a bitterness brought about by the truth of what was being leaked.

As for a 30,000 pound bomb that translates to 13.6 tonnes, a good proportion of which is casing, that is, only 8-10 tonnes is explosive, maybe less if it was a penetration bomb with hardened nose cone.

If the bomb failed to penetrate the bunker but still went off beneath the surface then much of the explosive force would be absorbed, although the shock wave would have rattled the spanners alright.

Whatever, they were big expensive bombs and if they failed then the US military has an additional credibility problem following on from all the game changers, that didn't, it sent to Ukraine.
 

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