Origins Thread

[AN2]

You have to give him some leeway. His late father was an alcoholic, and unfortunately he followed in his footsteps

lol That's my favourite pic of the Gowl, with the vacant look on his face, he's like - Who are you? Where am I? What the f*ck are you talking about?

Which is precisely how he is if you ever try to discuss anything with him.. That isn't licking his hole which is all the other Fagpoliers do

 

[Fishalt]

 

[AN2]

I find this (viral) video strangely emotional..

This is the abridged version (still way too long for @Myles O'Reilly), rewind for the full thing -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA&t=23m48s

Everything has its wonders, even darkness and silence...
...and I learn, whatever state I may be in, therein to be content.

Helen Keller​

 

[AN2]

Do you accept that you frequently invoke science to try to affirm your biblical story?

Not at all. Pointing out the weaknesses in the evidence for evolution isn't about affirming a particular narrative

Where the comedy begins...

—it's about testing a hypothesis, which is precisely what science is supposed to encourage. Scientific inquiry thrives on questioning assumptions and examining evidence, rather than defending dogmas.

Uh-huh

What’s fascinating is how quickly you infer that this critical examination must be 'religious.'

What's fascinating is that you expect anyone to believe that your "critical examination" (of evolution) isn't religious(ly motivated)

That reaction speaks volumes—not about my worldview, but about yours.

What is my worldview?

It reveals that your framework of understanding leans on its own unquestioned premises: the idea that life spontaneously arose from nothing and organized itself through blind, unguided processes.

Abiogenesis is not understood, evolution is origin of species, how many times do you have to be told the same thing over and over again before it sinks in?

This isn’t "science" in a pure sense; it’s a philosophical commitment, one that borders on faith in itself.

Evolution is backed by evidence, faith has none. Why do you think it's called faith?

Science, by definition, doesn't 'belong' to any one ideology or worldview, including yours.

What is my worldview?

It’s a tool for seeking truth, no matter where that search leads. Perhaps it’s worth asking: is your attachment to evolutionary theory so strong because it serves as the foundation for your meaning of life?

What is meaning of life. I don't have a meaning of life and I don't particularly seek one, why would I, what's important about me, or anyone else for that matter?

If you need a meaning of life in the hope that you'll live forever then by all means go and seek it, you won't find it.

And if so, are you willing to apply the same scrutiny to your own 'religion' that you demand of mine?

I'm not religious you stupid fucken bastard

I’m guessing that person in the image reminds you of yourself, which explains why you are triggered by it.

Yes, I am triggered. Get the f*ck out of my science class and go to church. It's what we've been telling you morons since forever

 

[AN2]

 

[Professor]

We must consider the wisdom of true Alpha intelligence, and what the beholders tell us.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dK81PZ6Spr4

 

[AN2]

We must consider the wisdom of true Alpha intelligence, and what the beholders tell us.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dK81PZ6Spr4

It really has little to do with intelligence. Ain't you never heard of the bell curve?

Besides, 'World's Smartest Man', Chris Langan, was debunked by Professor Dave (who's beta), I posted the video of it -

Post in thread 'Interesting Miscellaneous Videos or Podcasts.' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.co...ellaneous-videos-or-podcasts.1049/post-120503

 

[AN2]

Alex has become a geocentrist since discovering relativity! -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GI80Pc8wsIY

 

[clarke-connolly]

Alex has become a geocentrist since discovering relativity! -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GI80Pc8wsIY

I am the centre of the Universe !

I am the centre of the Multi-verses ! ! !

 

[AN2]

I am the centre of the Universe !

No, I am

 

[clarke-connolly]

No, I am

Look at You !

 

[AN2]

I can't stand that smug little gimp. For some reason his videos keep popping in my recommended videos on YT.

It's the algorithms

 

[AN2]

I thought it was a harmless joke anyway.

Probably worth it for the addition of "seeing as the Earth is the only place with any observers"..

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

You have to give him some leeway. His late father was an alcoholic, and unfortunately he followed in his footsteps

His teacher Fr Tony Walsh was a child abuser and he followed in his footsteps an' all.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

It's the algorithms

The promotion of Jordan Peterson as a "de-radicalizing" agent by youtube is something I found difficult to forgive.

 

[AN2]

The Cosmic Wager (revisited)

EARLIER today @scolairebocht said -

There are obviously no such things as extra terrestrial aliens (source)

Which was reminiscent of @Tiger's bold statement -

Aliens don't exist (source) (source2)

Upon questioning, both of them denied that it was a religious belief (why do they not have the strength of their own convictions ), with Tiger trying to mumbo jumbo his way out of it as a "Cosmic bet" -

Origins Thread

View: https://x.com/StephenCMeyer/status/1809277177109835922

www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com

Which seemed counterintuitive to me. Surely if you were to make a bet on it, you would make a bet on there being alien life, as many astrophysicists do.

Well, here's an interesting talk by Professor David Kipping (he'd be on the science side) saying, wait a minute -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ&t=7

Oops! Wrong video

Here ya go -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zcInt58juL4&t=138

 

[AN2]

 

[AN2]

There is no alien invasion you utter moron.

The honest answer here for Tiggy would've been:

There is no alien invasion because I know that aliens don't exist.. because I have a biblical view of the Universe

(which should always be borne in mind when these people question the 'science')

 

[AN2]

The Equivalence Principle, Bendy Spacetime & The Eddington Experiment

EINSTEIN was famous for his gedankenexperimente but how did his equivalence principle (the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass)..

.. and light prove 'bendy spacetime', which was tested with the Eddington experiment confirming Einstein's prediction?


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzm947lBqnE&t=21m39s

I think this video (14.5 mins) below pretty much covers all of it and is easy enough to understand, it may be especially useful to @Mods vs Roc_ers, @Hermit and @Tiger


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVIS_01GttQ

The only thing I can think of that the video could have included is the case of what would happen if the elevator was moving at a constant velocity, would that not also cause the light to "bend"? Well no, it would be displaced but would still be in a straight line, only with acceleration do you get the parabolic shape (curvature)

If you have any questions please let me know in the comments.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

^^
What is that shyte?

 

[Wolf]

^^
What is that shyte?

That's the shite this site is being polluted with making it not worthwhile posting.

 

[AN2]

That's the shite this site is being polluted with making it not worthwhile posting.

I will take it as doing a service for the site if you are posting less because of me

 

[clarke-connolly]

The Equivalence Principle, Bendy Spacetime & The Eddington Experiment

EINSTEIN was famous for his gedankenexperimente but how did his equivalence principle (the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass)..

.. and light prove 'bendy spacetime', which was tested with the Eddington experiment confirming Einstein's prediction?


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzm947lBqnE&t=21m39s

I think this video (14.5 mins) below pretty much covers all of it and is easy enough to understand, it may be especially useful to @Mods vs Roc_ers, @Hermit and @Tiger


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVIS_01GttQ

The only thing I can think of that the video could have included is the case of what would happen if the elevator was moving at a constant velocity, would that not also cause the light to "bend"? Well no, it would be displaced but would still be in a straight line, only with acceleration do you get the parabolic shape (curvature)

If you have any questions please let me know in the comments.

The Universe is remarkably simple ~ ~ It is just about something ( lets call it the Universe ) going from very very very small to big ~ ~ Interesting to know, how small and how big ? !

That's what it is all about.

 

[clarke-connolly]

The Equivalence Principle, Bendy Spacetime & The Eddington Experiment

EINSTEIN was famous for his gedankenexperimente but how did his equivalence principle (the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass)..

.. and light prove 'bendy spacetime', which was tested with the Eddington experiment confirming Einstein's prediction?


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzm947lBqnE&t=21m39s

I think this video (14.5 mins) below pretty much covers all of it and is easy enough to understand, it may be especially useful to @Mods vs Roc_ers, @Hermit and @Tiger


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVIS_01GttQ

The only thing I can think of that the video could have included is the case of what would happen if the elevator was moving at a constant velocity, would that not also cause the light to "bend"? Well no, it would be displaced but would still be in a straight line, only with acceleration do you get the parabolic shape (curvature)

If you have any questions please let me know in the comments.

You started that video with ~ ~ The Bluffer Neil Degrasse Tyson ~ ~ I demand Trigger Warnings for that sort of Stunt !

 

[AN2]

^^
What is that shyte?

Science, Myles.

What have you got against that?

The Eddington experiment was discussed recently (another scene of one of roc's epic science fails) as has 'bendy spacetime' ((c) Hermit) and I thought I would write a post about it here (I said I would)

Did you watch the video? Do you have any questions?

 

[AN2]

You started that video with ~ ~ The Bluffer Neil Degrasse Tyson ~ ~ I demand Trigger Warnings for that sort of Stunt !

Haha.. Not entirely unintentional that.

I love him a short bit afterwards when he says - "Light only knows straight lines.... What's bent is space".

He's right, it's an important understanding. I used to post the clip at @valamhic in our epic saga about gravity "bending" light.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Science, Myles.

The fool you're quoting thought the Coronavirus was equivalent to the black death.

 

[clarke-connolly]

The fool you're quoting thought the Coronavirus was equivalent to the black death.

Was it only going to kill black people ? !

 

[AN2]

The fool you're quoting thought the Coronavirus was equivalent to the black death.

I quoted him saying something correct

Even though you could google for - gravity bending light (massless photons) and get a brazillion results in the affirmative.. it's a bugbear of mine.

What's bent.. is space

 

[Hermit]

The Equivalence Principle, Bendy Spacetime & The Eddington Experiment

EINSTEIN was famous for his gedankenexperimente but how did his equivalence principle (the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass)..

.. and light prove 'bendy spacetime', which was tested with the Eddington experiment confirming Einstein's prediction?


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzm947lBqnE&t=21m39s

I think this video (14.5 mins) below pretty much covers all of it and is easy enough to understand, it may be especially useful to @Mods vs Roc_ers, @Hermit and @Tiger


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVIS_01GttQ

The only thing I can think of that the video could have included is the case of what would happen if the elevator was moving at a constant velocity, would that not also cause the light to "bend"? Well no, it would be displaced but would still be in a straight line, only with acceleration do you get the parabolic shape (curvature)

If you have any questions please let me know in the comments.

 

[AN2]

Now you're thinking Hermit!

Yes, as depicted above has become a popular way to visualise and demonstrate bendy spacetime (the cause of gravity) since this viral video many years ago, watch -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTY1Kje0yLg

 

[AN2]

Correction of the record

WHATEVER about Mehdi Hasan, who could forget this infamous encounter Dawkins had with Brandon Flowers on a Finnish chat show. If looks could kill ..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W-pr2PL-e9Y

I've been reliably informed that the above clip was not taken from a Finnish chat show (it's somewhere up there cold anyway).

What can I say, we all mistakes.

Take it away, Brandon -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjk03W4zcgc

 

[AN2]

Correction of the record


I've been reliably informed that the above clip was not taken from a Finnish chat show (it's somewhere up there cold anyway).

What can I say, we all mistakes.

Take it away, Brandon -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjk03W4zcgc

OMG!

I've just realised that that ^ is not Brandon, it's a The Killers song alright but it's not him.. Two mistakes in one week?!

You may as well take a note in your calendar, write it down, because I hardly ever make a mistake.

Here is the real Brandon Flowers -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y

PS. I also just noticed too that this thread now has..

(Those are numbers @Tiger can only dream of)

 

[it_is_what_it_is]

Apologies, I do not have the time or energy to read through this thread and the replies, where from what I did read I quickly moved on.

I will just say that the theory of evolution is just that, a theory. The idea that people believe in an theory is a religion, it is a faith based argument. Theory is just that if you believe in such.

There are many things within the hard sciences we can think on, or have a hard notion on such as being a relative fact in our current age, published paper to published paper, primarily math, physics and chemistry. Medical science is a joke now, the replication crisis, is one that 10 percent of published articles can be replicated, unlike in the 90's where it was 90 percent. If you are being treated in medicine based on 90's research you are likely good, if it based on today's research, you are a fool to agree to such. Sociology was always a joke of the soft sciences, and so gender ideology, critical race theory etc... But again, such "Science" was always a scam. Not all "Sciences" are equal.

We are living in one of the most unscientific ages of late regards reality, as money and corruption has infected medical sciences totally as example, where it was at the bottom of the hard sciences always, where ye can never have a 100 percent on it, unlike math in ways, today it's a sick joke. It is not turtles all the way down, it is scams all the way down, welcome to the current world.

Where again, theory's are just that, theory's, the hint is in the word used, the issue is people do not understand language and the meaning of words, and so it becomes a belief.

 

[AN2]

Apologies, I do not have the time or energy to read through this thread and the replies, where from what I did read I quickly moved on.

Okey doke

Where did you stop reading, was it here -

Post in thread 'Origins (Uncensored) Reprise' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/origins-uncensored-reprise.1050/post-118531

I notice that you haven't cast your vote yet

I will just say that the theory of evolution is just that, a theory. The idea that people believe in an theory is a religion, it is a faith based argument. Theory is just that if you believe in such.

I'm sorry but you are hopelessly wrong.

Religion is certainly (a leap of) faith but a scientific theory is not -

Google Search

You are using, shall we say, a layman's term of 'theory'. Our stupidest poster @Mods vs Roc_ers did this when he imagined replacement theory (which refers to a conspiracy theory) in the same layman's term

There are many things within the hard sciences we can think on, or have a hard notion on such as being a relative fact in our current age, published paper to published paper, primarily math, physics and chemistry. Medical science is a joke now, the replication crisis, is one that 10 percent of published articles can be replicated, unlike in the 90's where it was 90 percent. If you are being treated in medicine based on 90's research you are likely good, if it based on today's research, you are a fool to agree to such. Sociology was always a joke of the soft sciences, and so gender ideology, critical race theory etc... But again, such "Science" was always a scam. Not all "Sciences" are equal.

Fo sho

We are living in one of the most unscientific ages of late regards reality, as money and corruption has infected medical sciences totally as example, where it was at the bottom of the hard sciences always, where ye can never have a 100 percent on it, unlike math in ways, today it's a sick joke. It is not turtles all the way down, it is scams all the way down, welcome to the current world.

I'm not a trust the science guy, I have a healthy degree of scepticism but.. centuries of progress in real knowledge disregarded because big pharma or climate scientists are bought and paid for? Nah. That's baby and the bathwater

Where again, theory's are just that, theory's, the hint is in the word used, the issue is people do not understand language and the meaning of words, and so it becomes a belief.

See above

PS. Theory's? I mean..

Bro

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I've been reliably informed that the above clip was not taken from a Finnish chat show.

Mowl is not considered reliable.

 

[AN2]

ONE of the greatest pop stars of all time, Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou AKA George Michael -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zX23cKZKeQ0

 

[clarke-connolly]

ONE of the greatest pop stars of all time, Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou AKA George Michael -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zX23cKZKeQ0

Middling would be my opinion.

 

[AN2]

Middling would be my opinion.

I would say no. He was pretty much in the musical genius category, imo

 

[clarke-connolly]

I would say no. He was pretty much in the musical genius category, imo

He was, No Joe Dolan