An Open Letter to Atheists

[AN2]

You’re some spoofer. 3rd time lucky. Friday quiz time…

If the totality of physical reality — including time, space, matter, and energy — began at the Big Bang, and you reject both creation ex nihilo and an eternal regress, then on what coherent, evidence-based ontological grounds do you assert that something existed prior to or independently of that event, and what is its causal status?

See my previous post

All of this discussion is about the Big Bang theory

What does it say?

 

[AN2]

The Big Bang is a physical theory that describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature.[1]

Big Bang - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[AN2]

Obviously he has a very low IQ, but you can how brainwashed the likes of Tiger are about what the Big Bang theory isn't by creationist carnies like Lennox and Meyer

 

[Tiger]

See my previous post

All of this discussion is about the Big Bang theory

What does it say?

Excellent. So that’s confirmation that you cannot answer the question.

So far the Friday Quiz score is:

Tiger 1 - 0 Jambo

Question 2

Given that all known empirical observation collapses at the Planck boundary, and no physical theory — quantum gravity, string theory, or cosmological inflation — has produced testable evidence for any 'pre-time' state, on what rational or scientific basis do you continue to assert that something existed before the origin of time, rather than concede that 'nothing' is at least as plausible as your unevidenced speculations?

 

[Tuco]

Obviously he has a very low IQ, but you can how brainwashed the likes of Tiger are about what the Big Bang theory isn't by creationist carnies like Lennox and Meyer

Jimmy. Please. Stop.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Jimmy. Please. Stop.

Tuco why do you not join up here?

 

[AN2]

Excellent. So that’s confirmation that you cannot answer the question.

So far the Friday Quiz score is:

Tiger 1 - 0 Jambo

Question 2

Given that all known empirical observation collapses at the Planck boundary, and no physical theory — quantum gravity, string theory, or cosmological inflation — has produced testable evidence for any 'pre-time' state, on what rational or scientific basis do you continue to assert that something existed before the origin of time, rather than concede that 'nothing' is at least as plausible as your unevidenced speculations?

LOL Unfuckingbelievable, groundhog day..

The Big Bang theory is not a something from nothing theory, do you understand that??

 

[AN2]

Tuco why do you not join up here?

What?!

 

[Tiger]

LOL Unfuckingbelievable, groundhog day..

The Big Bang theory is not a something from nothing theory, do you understand that??

Your repetition of that claim avoids the actual challenge: if the Big Bang is not a “something from nothing” theory, then please specify what it came from — and provide any empirical evidence for the existence of that “something” prior to spacetime, rather than retreating into dogmatic assertion.

Friday Night Quiz score is:

Tiger 2 - 0 Jambo

Question 3

If the Big Bang does not describe an absolute origin but merely a transitional phase from a prior 'something,' then what empirically testable mechanism accounts for the spontaneous emergence of ordered physical law, dimensionality, and low-entropy initial conditions from that 'something'—and how do you distinguish it from metaphysics?

 

[AN2]

Your repetition of that claim avoids the actual challenge: if the Big Bang is not a “something from nothing” theory, then please specify what it came from — and provide any empirical evidence for the existence of that “something” prior to spacetime, rather than retreating into dogmatic assertion.

Friday Night Quiz score is:

Tiger 2 - 0 Jambo

Question 3

If the Big Bang does not describe an absolute origin but merely a transitional phase from a prior 'something,' then what empirically testable mechanism accounts for the spontaneous emergence of ordered physical law, dimensionality, and low-entropy initial conditions from that 'something'—and how do you distinguish it from metaphysics?

LMAO

Q E fucken D

He literally does not understand that the Big Bang theory is not a something from nothing theory

It's always the same with this idiot - "Nuh-uh!"

 

[AN2]

The Big Bang theory, as a scientific explanation, is not a "something from nothing" theory. It describes the universe's evolution from an extremely hot, dense state, not its creation from absolute nothingness. While the theory accounts for the universe's expansion and development, it doesn't address what existed before this initial state or what caused it.

 

[AN2]

It's like you explain something and then he asks - Well, how does that explain this other thing?

A: It doesn't

And he absolutely refuses to accept that answer (you can tell that he hasn't had much in the way of a formal education)

Dreary me

 

[Tiger]

LMAO

Q E fucken D

He literally does not understand that the Big Bang theory is not a something from nothing theory

It's always the same with this idiot - "Nuh-uh!"

Tiger 3 - 0 Jambo

 

[AN2]

Tiger 3 - 0 Jambo

Deluded, as always

 

[AN2]

You are absolutely free of course, @Tiger, to speculate that "nothing" existed before the Big Bang (except for your God) but that is not the Big Bang theory, and science illiterates like the creationist carnie John Lennox should stop lying about it

 

[clarke-connolly]

You are absolutely free of course, @Tiger, to speculate that "nothing" existed before the Big Bang (except for your God) but that is not the Big Bang theory, and science illiterates like the creationist carnie John Lennox should stop lying about it

Maybe it was just a Fart waiting for the Big Bang ? !

 

[AN2]

Maybe it was just a Fart waiting for the Big Bang ? !

If Tiger wants to talk about something from nothing from a scientific perspective, then he should talk about that. And I don't mean something like quantum fluctuations, I mean theories like the ones Krauss and Hawking have for the creation of the universe

The Big Bang theory should be excluded from the discussion and it's not the same i.e. purely theoretical because empiricism

 

[AN2]

DOOFUS Lennox thinks he pwned atheist with this -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-OZfl-f0_Ko

 

[Haven]

https://scitechdaily.com/rewriting-cosmology-new-calculations-shake-foundations-of-the-big-bang-theory/

We may not know now when the Universe started, if there is even a beginning.

How will Tiger retcon this?

 

[Arnold Floss]

DOOFUS Lennox thinks he pwned atheist with this -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-OZfl-f0_Ko

Give it a rest you creep

 

[clarke-connolly]

DOOFUS Lennox thinks he pwned atheist with this -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-OZfl-f0_Ko

In fairness ~ ~ Lennox did catch yer man out, at least to some degree there ! !

 

[AN2]

In fairness ~ ~ Lennox did catch yer man out, at least to some degree there ! !

Why do you say that?

 

[AN2]

https://scitechdaily.com/rewriting-cosmology-new-calculations-shake-foundations-of-the-big-bang-theory/

We may not know now when the Universe started, if there is even a beginning.

How will Tiger retcon this?

They love their Big Bang theory, they just don't know what it is

 

[AN2]

Give it a rest you creep

Why should I?

I said that I'd get to it here

I also said that as long as his name isn't mentioned again here..

But @Tiger jumped in again (underpants first, as always) and now it's becoming a case of..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tVH7BPb-Q

 

[clarke-connolly]

Why do you say that?

You have to believe in Atheism to be a True Atheist !

 

[AN2]

You have to believe in Atheism to be a True Atheist !

What do I believe in, atheism?

 

[clarke-connolly]

What do I believe in, atheism?

If you are a Believer in Atheism then you are an Atheist = = An Atheism Believer.

You have, Faith and Belief, in Atheism / A " True " Believer ! !

 

[AN2]

If you are a Believer in Atheism then you are an Atheist = = An Atheism Believer.

You have, Faith and Belief, in Atheism / A " True " Believer ! !

A "true atheist" believes in atheism?

How do you define atheism?

 

[Tiger]

Why should I?

I said that I'd get to it here

I also said that as long as his name isn't mentioned again here..

But @Tiger jumped in again (underpants first, as always) and now it's becoming a case of..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tVH7BPb-Q

Why do you always copy and mimic my phrasing? Tank does that too. It’s pathetic and ghey.

I guess it’s a compliment of sorts, making me superior.

You took one hell of a beating yesterday. 3 nil. That’s gotta hurt.

 

[AN2]

Why do you always copy and mimic my phrasing? Tank does that too. It’s pathetic.

I guess it’s a compliment of sorts, making me superior.

You took one hell of a beating yesterday. 3 nil. That’s gotta hurt.

The soapbox dunce strikes again..

 

[Tiger]

The soapbox dunce strikes again..

Ghey.

 

[AN2]

Ghey.

Could you quit spamming the thread, please

 

[clarke-connolly]

A "true atheist" believes in atheism?

How do you define atheism?

Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

So, you have to have Faith and Belief in; The absence of belief in the existence of deities.

A Religion of No Religion.

 

[AN2]

Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

It isn't the slightest bit jarring to you to define an absence of belief as belief?

So, you have to have Faith and Belief in; The absence of belief in the existence of deities.

A Religion of No Religion.

Atheism isn't a religion or faith

And that's only the first thing that doofus Lennox got wrong

 

[clarke-connolly]

Are Atheists believing that there are no Gods = = Surely a belief is a belief system ?

 

[AN2]

Are Atheists believing that there are no Gods = = Surely a belief is a belief system ?

I don't believe that "there are no Gods", am I a "true atheist"?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

DOOFUS Lennox thinks he pwned atheist with this -

It was a good response to be fair to the auld boy.

However he took a chance. If yer man had've said his parents were Christians, old Lennox would flummoxed.

 

[clarke-connolly]

It was a good response to be fair to the auld boy.

However he took a chance. If yer man had've said his parents were Christians, old Lennox would flummoxed.

Maybe yer man should have lied, for the cause of Atheism ? !

 

[AN2]

Prima facie, it's literally a self-own..

Atheist: "You're a Christian because your parents were Christian."

Doofus Lennox: "Yes, I am. As you are an atheist because your parents were atheists."

But there's more to it (I'll get to that later)

 

[AN2]

Maybe yer man should have lied, for the cause of Atheism ? !

You're showing your true weasel colours

You haven't answered any of my questions

Perhaps consider taking a break from this thread