Ukraine.

It appears that an edited text of the phone call has been released although I can't find it on the Chinese ministers site. The New Atlas has a copy anyway and was noting that Zelensky called China and Xi considered the time was right to pick up the phone.

The long and short of it is that China appears to be cutting the US/NATO out of any sort of diplomacy and will talk directly to the two parties in seeking a settlement. Xi is flexing his muscles on the world stage and by going about the business of peace through offering trade and aid rather than guns and battles he appears to be getting somewhere.

I should imagine the neocons are feeling well pissed off with this latest development, which is to be celebrated.
 
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Mad as Fish said:
It appears that an edited text of the phone call has been released although I can't find it on the Chinese ministers site. The New Atlas has a copy anyway and was noting that Zelensky called China and Xi considered the time was right to pick up the phone.

The long and short of it is that China appears to be cutting the US/NATO out of any sort of diplomacy and will talk directly to the two parties in seeking a settlement. Xi is flexing his muscles on the world stage and by going about the business of peace through offering trade and aid rather than guns and battles he appears to be getting somewhere.

I should imagine the neocons are feeling well pissed off with this latest development, which is to be celebrated.
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Watching Terrorist America being destroyed and sidelined is really quite enjoyable.
It's a dirty perverted, warmongering but dying kip and the world should celebrate when it finally rips itself apart.

The site perverts and peadophiles here mightn't be too happy, but hey......:ROFLMAO:
 
Mad as Fish said:
This is all a tad childish and irrelevant nowadays. It is a battle of attrition, not territory, and Russia has all but won it, even Zelensky may be waking up to that, hence his scurrying off to Xi.
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Dirty Washington won't be too impressed when Beijing owns Ukraine......:ROFLMAO:
 
Mad as Fish said:
This is all a tad childish and irrelevant nowadays. It is a battle of attrition, not territory, and Russia has all but won it, even Zelensky may be waking up to that, hence his scurrying off to Xi.
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Indeed.
For some the designer war is whatever their preferred Twatter faggots tell them it is.
These morons have no interest in the human cost of the Terrorist American forced conflict.
Dirty scum really.
 
According to the Hindustan Times on YT, Germany has told Zelensky that the tanks it supplied are for defence only and not for an attack on Russia, raising the question as to whether this includes the great spring, now summer, offensive or not? Is it a further sign that the west is backing off?
 
Wolf said:
Indeed.
For some the designer war is whatever their preferred Twatter faggots tell them it is.
These morons have no interest in the human cost of the Terrorist American forced conflict.
Dirty scum really.
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You're right, It's just one big game in the sandpit for the infantile masturbaters who busily push their little Airfix tanks about the pretend terrain making bang bang noises as they do so. No notion of the human cost whatsoever.
 
The American backed Uki Nazi war is just a warm up.....

consortiumnews.com

John Pilger: The Coming War — Time to Speak Up

Silences filled with a consensus of propaganda contaminate almost everything we read, see and hear. War by media is now a key task of so-called mainstream journalism. By John Pilger In 1935, the Congress of American Writers was held in New York City, followed by another two years later. Th
consortiumnews.com consortiumnews.com

The Terrorist United States of America is destabilising our world and it's not going to end well......for anyone, least of all the yanks.
 
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Myles O'Reilly said:
If anyone thinks the Russians blew up their own pipeline they should be excluded from any serious debate in future.

The sheer gullibility not to mention stupidity of such a person can only be pitied.
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It's not that retards like the WankTank believe it, it's that they're paid per post to spread their masters propaganda.
 
M1A2 said:
That's the first problem right there.

It wasn't just their own pipeline, was it?

Also what else was happening around that time in terms of pipelines? You should find out.

And what happened in terms of pipeline and infrastructure security afterwards? And who bears that cost?
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Trying to pick a fight over such details as the actual ownership of the infrastructure only serves to deflect from the much more pertinent fact that it provided a massive income stream for Russia, one that they were unlikely to terminate themselves. The BRICS is all about trade, not blowing each other up, that's the Yankee approach and it's losing them friends fast.
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
If anyone thinks the Russians blew up their own pipeline they should be excluded from any serious debate in future.

The sheer gullibility not to mention stupidity of such a person can only be pitied.
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A gem I heard from someone I know.
Sure the Russians could have stuck the explosives in the pipe!
Maybe it would be easiest if they just shut down the flow until people copped on?
Got a blank look to that one.
 
M1A2 said:
That's what you think, is it?

The Russians had already shut down the pipeline for "maintenance".

But flows had dropped to under 20% of peak flows by that point (end of August).

I'd be looking blankly at you too, tbh.
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Then why blow it up?
 
jpc said:
A gem I heard from someone I know.
Sure the Russians could have stuck the explosives in the pipe!
Maybe it would be easiest if they just shut down the flow until people copped on?
Got a blank look to that one.
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Yes, I can imagine Mr Putin thinking "Hmmm, I want to shut off our gas supply to Europe, I wonder how I can do that???.........I know, I'll instruct our forces to actually blow up the pipeline, that'd be much simpler than just turning off a couple of valves".

This is what retard propagandists like the WankTank peado actually believe happened!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


Now, ask the question.....Who is the main beneficiary of having that same pipeline destroyed, Putin? Or the senile peadophile in Washington who actually stated on camera in January 2022 that he would 'end Nord stream 2' if Russia attacked his Nazi buddies in Ukraine?
 
M1A2 said:
But it's not their own pipeline, is it?

Guys, you really haven't thought this through at all.

Why would the Russians continue to pay part of the maintainance of a pipeline that was always going to be shut down by the Germans and was being barely used prior to shutdown?
What happened to gas prices when it was blown up? Who benefited from that rise?
How much extra is Europe now having to spend on security for their own infrastructure, now that it's proven to be so vulnerable?
What has Russia actually lost, that it hadn't lost already prior to the explosion?
How much did it gain directly and indirectly from the event?
And finally, if they really didn't do it, why were they there right before the explosion?

And before you all run off and blame the US and say they were the main beneficiary....go check out who is Germanys largest supplier now.
And find out from where a new pipeline to Germany was inaugurated around the same time.

FFS lads.
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Oh piss off with your poxy propaganda ya dirty freak.....
How's your fellow traveller Biden these days?
Does he send you links?:sick:
 
M1A2 said:
But it's not their own pipeline, is it?

Guys, you really haven't thought this through at all.

Why would the Russians continue to pay part of the maintainance of a pipeline that was always going to be shut down by the Germans and was being barely used prior to shutdown?
What happened to gas prices when it was blown up? Who benefited from that rise?
How much extra is Europe now having to spend on security for their own infrastructure, now that it's proven to be so vulnerable? Where is that money going to come from in already stretched defence budgets?
What has Russia actually lost, that it hadn't lost already prior to the explosion?
How much did it gain directly and indirectly from the event?
And finally, if they really didn't do it, why were they there right before the explosion?

And before you all run off and blame the US and say they were the main beneficiary....go check out who is Germanys largest supplier now.
And find out from where a new pipeline to Germany was inaugurated around the same time.

FFS lads.
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Just the one point as I haven't all day.

And before you all run off and blame the US and say they were the main beneficiary....go check out who is Germanys largest supplier now.

America benefits not due to selling more gas to Germany but the fact that European industry becomes less competitive due to energy costs.

Really, you need to think outside of the neocon box for change.
 
Mad as Fish said:
Just the one point as I haven't all day.

And before you all run off and blame the US and say they were the main beneficiary....go check out who is Germanys largest supplier now.

America benefits not due to selling more gas to Germany but the fact that European industry becomes less competitive due to energy costs.

Really, you need to think outside of the neocon box for change.
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It's a paid propagandist, it will never think outside of the box its masters hand it 🙂
 
M1A2 said:
Wholesale gas prices.

https://www.ft.com/content/3bb53193-da20-4860-bed6-c2781dff1ea0

The price of European natural gas has fallen to its lowest level since the build-up to Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, boosting the EU and UK economies and delivering a blow to President Vladimir Putin’s war effort. The benchmark gas price on Friday fell below €50 per megawatt hour for the first time in almost 18 months, down to €48.90/MWh, as traders report growing confidence that European countries will avoid shortages this winter and next. The gas benchmark peaked at more than €300/MWh in August 2022.
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And the consumption of the gas by industry, how is that doing?
 
Mad as Fish said:
And the consumption of the gas by industry, how is that doing?
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It's just another rabbit hole the gimp is paid to drag people down.
There is NO discussion with the gimp, it's not allowed to concede anything that doesn't line up with the propaganda it's paid to post here.
 
M1A2 said:
It's a MAF rabbit hole to nowhere.

Here's more stats for Germany and Europe.


Basically, things are pretty much back to normal or tracking back to where they were.
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Bollux.

Here is a graph showing Germany's industrial performance last year -

Germany Industrial Production

Industrial Production in Germany decreased 1 percent in September of 2025 over the same month in the previous year. This page provides the latest reported value for - Germany Industrial Production - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction...
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A 0.6% increase over February last year when annual inflation for the country was 7.9%. The place is going backwards.
 
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