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Very fake looking video from Musk's lunar module lander launch. Don't forget, Musk faked a video of a Tesla in space. The Lander 'launch' appears to have happened in low earth orbit. Why not go further, much further??
 

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I am not sure if the landing was from the moon One or a a different one.
 

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We can all agree that this newly released photo is not real.

Why are they doing this???
 

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Nearly everything told us on space exploration is true. Humans can do everything and will invent better equipment, rockets etc. All within LEO. They can go beyond low earth orbit but if they do they cannot return without serious health effects and early death.

NASA faked the Apollo mission in the belief they would eventually go to the moon and Mars when technology improved. There is no way to protect people above low earth orbit. It would take tons of lead and that would
retard acceleration and deceleration.
 

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It is a hard truth to swallow for many, but nobody has gone to the moon and the Sept planned attempt is now postponed into 2025.
 

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Nearly everything told us on space exploration is true. Humans can do everything and will invent better equipment, rockets etc. All within LEO. They can go beyond low earth orbit but if they do they cannot return without serious health effects and early death.

NASA faked the Apollo mission in the belief they would eventually go to the moon and Mars when technology improved. There is no way to protect people above low earth orbit. It would take tons of lead and that would
retard acceleration and deceleration.

Apparently "Lead" isn't the best solution when compared with knowledge & experience, so suggests the vid . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNiscigIgBc&t=383s
 

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It is a hard truth to swallow for many, but nobody has gone to the moon and the Sept planned attempt is now postponed into 2025.
Yes, unfortunately the whole thing is politicised. If you say they did not go, they labelled you a denier.

The best way is to assess all the evidence and come to an informed consensus. It is obvious to me that
the Artemis mission was a genuine attempt at measuring radiation in the space between the earth and moon.
They were reasonably sure it would be safe and they even measured the impact on women's bodies. All the modern health and safety rules pressurised them to do this. They were hoping the first woman to walk on the moon would
come back and join the Democratic party and become a media sensation.

Remember they are eternal optimists. See them in Ukraine, in Afghanistan they were all positive until
reality sunk in. They get it hard to understand some things are out of their control. Note there is no information
from Artemis, no results published. Not only radiation, space is filled with various meteorites. The risk from big ones is small and acceptable but I see tiny ones as falling stars on most clear nights.

The ascent modules convinced me it was a fake Apollo film, My father said that 53 years ago.
 

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The lunar fly by is postponed til Sept 2025 now.

They may attempt this and who knows what will happen.

If they are successful, then they will be forced to admit that a landing is too dangerous.
I assume at that point, they will admit the moon landing hoax.
Probably. Just imagine now if the Ukraine war could be won by an elaborate hoax which would take 54 years to
get out in public. Would they use it? Of course they would. It was Trump started this moon push. He was an
unconventional politician. Had it been a conventional politician he/she would be told to steer clear of manned
space exploration. What happened 350 kg of moon rock? If it were real it would be sent round like a saints relics.

I predict, the announcement that Apollo was a hoax will be timed to coincide with public realisation that the USA
is failed and finished. There will be no more reason to keep it going. My late father always said it was a hoax.
I thought it was real until about 2012. An old man called Ownie Gargan told me in about 1967 "If anyone ever
sets foot on that moon it will be the end of the world"
 

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I was not suggesting lead was the only solution, I mentioned lead as one solution. In assessing them all
wight and volume have to be considered. I dont see how a giant magnetic field could be achieved.

Perhaps it's got something to do with the Earth spinning on a constant axis and due to the planets mineral composition - electro magnetism is produced which terminates at both poles.

It could be compared to a giant magnetic dynamo which gets its energy from the sun - we do get lights at the poles which we can see, no?
Earth's full of Iron - The Sun/Galaxy has charged it up, magnetized it, and keeps the energies flowing 😊
 

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@Hermit . . . Yet high altitudes can still cause worsening glaucoma symptoms. These are usually caused by the dry recycled air in the cabin or dehydration on the flight. Therefore, it's important for anyone living with glaucoma to check in with their consultant before they fly so they can get individual advice. . .

. . . Keeping your glaucoma drops and any other medication in your hand luggage is essential to managing your symptoms effectively. The recycled air and pressures of high altitude can cause the eyes of people with glaucoma to become suddenly dry or for vision to be blurred.

 

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@Hermit . . . Yet high altitudes can still cause worsening glaucoma symptoms. These are usually caused by the dry recycled air in the cabin or dehydration on the flight. Therefore, it's important for anyone living with glaucoma to check in with their consultant before they fly so they can get individual advice. . .

. . . Keeping your glaucoma drops and any other medication in your hand luggage is essential to managing your symptoms effectively. The recycled air and pressures of high altitude can cause the eyes of people with glaucoma to become suddenly dry or for vision to be blurred.

There is an operation for Glaucoma. My cousin got it done. No drops needed, drainers are fitted.
 

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Perhaps it's got something to do with the Earth spinning on a constant axis and due to the planets mineral composition - electro magnetism is produced which terminates at both poles.

It could be compared to a giant magnetic dynamo which gets its energy from the sun - we do get lights at the poles which we can see, no?
Earth's full of Iron - The Sun/Galaxy has charged it up, magnetized it, and keeps the energies flowing 😊
Any substance will stop radiation and particle impacts. The denser the better with a hi8gbh atomic number.

Lead is good but a thick shield is needed. Water can work if a wide / thick shield surrounds it. Not very practical though.
 

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There is an operation for Glaucoma. My cousin got it done. No drops needed, drainers are fitted.
Yeah but, the astronaut pictured above is fine on the ground, it's just the high altitude pressurised environment of space travel that gives him occasional similar symptoms and so he follows best advice - Pack the Meds afore ye go.;)
 

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Yeah but, the astronaut pictured above is fine on the ground, it's just the high altitude pressurised environment of space travel that gives him occasional similar symptoms and so he follows best advice - Pack the Meds afore ye go.;)
Eh, Professor, that image is not real. But I guess because it's about space then you automatically assume it's real. I only posted it because I found it funny and I thought you would too, being a weed smoker.

There is no ISS in space but if there was they wouldn't be smoking weed on it - and they certainly wouldn't be sending up astronauts with glaucoma.
 

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Eh, Professor, that image is not real. But I guess because it's about space then you automatically assume it's real. I only posted it because I found it funny and I thought you would too, being a weed smoker.
Good on you for posting, yes indeed it is funny and then we find out that Chris not only is an astronaut but also a Space Cadet!!🤩


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo


There is no ISS in space but if there was they wouldn't be smoking weed on it - and they certainly wouldn't be sending up astronauts with glaucoma.
Until there is evidence of proof of "no ISS" we can rightfully accept that there is one, All due respect to you but as with science we must go with the evidence presented as is endorsed by all the international participants.

See, it's not one or the other, it's various - Of course they wouldn't be smoking weed, agreed, however they would safely grind it up and add to their yogurt or other oral solution🤓.

Quite right they wouldn't send up astronauts with glaucoma but . . . If their astronauts were to develop such symptoms on-board then they would have appropriate medicine at hand in the first aid box.

Apparently the eyes suffer in space, but it also appears they're keeping an eye on it🧐


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVjUCN0YPw


;)
 

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Until there is evidence of proof of "no ISS" we can rightfully accept that there is one,
So you're asking me to prove that something doesn't exist, to prove a negative claim. Do unicorns exist?

Until there is evidence of proof of "no unicorns" we can rightfully accept that there are unicorns.

But I never said there is no ISS, I said there is no ISS in space. That is because the vacuum of space next to earth without a physical barrier is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics, which can be demonstrated in a scientific experiment; therefore the ISS cannot be in a place that cannot exist according to laws of nature.
 

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Good on you for posting, yes indeed it is funny and then we find out that Chris not only is an astronaut but also a Space Cadet!!🤩


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo



Until there is evidence of proof of "no ISS" we can rightfully accept that there is one, All due respect to you but as with science we must go with the evidence presented as is endorsed by all the international participants.

See, it's not one or the other, it's various - Of course they wouldn't be smoking weed, agreed, however they would safely grind it up and add to their yogurt or other oral solution🤓.

Quite right they wouldn't send up astronauts with glaucoma but . . . If their astronauts were to develop such symptoms on-board then they would have appropriate medicine at hand in the first aid box.

Apparently the eyes suffer in space, but it also appears they're keeping an eye on it🧐


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVjUCN0YPw


;)

This is all true. This type of man could not fake or lie. I also saw the ISS pass over on clear nights at the farm.

I believe everything published about space from all quarters is true except the manned moon landings.

That was fake.
 
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A question about Apollo is at what stage can it be accepted it was a fake? Suppose that by 2050 when I will be about 87 the situation is the same as it is now, nothing happens and no humans go beyond low earth orbit. OK.

Will the world accept it was a fake? In 2095, of no human or animal goes there, will it be accepted as fake?

What if in the year 2350, no human goes there, will it be accepted? Surely there must come a time when we have to accept the obvious.
 

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Good on you for posting, yes indeed it is funny and then we find out that Chris not only is an astronaut but also a Space Cadet!!🤩


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo



Until there is evidence of proof of "no ISS" we can rightfully accept that there is one, All due respect to you but as with science we must go with the evidence presented as is endorsed by all the international participants.

See, it's not one or the other, it's various - Of course they wouldn't be smoking weed, agreed, however they would safely grind it up and add to their yogurt or other oral solution🤓.

Quite right they wouldn't send up astronauts with glaucoma but . . . If their astronauts were to develop such symptoms on-board then they would have appropriate medicine at hand in the first aid box.

Apparently the eyes suffer in space, but it also appears they're keeping an eye on it🧐


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVjUCN0YPw


;)

Was that Hatfield or Bowie singing that?. Great song, I loved Bowie and Hatfield is a great character. How was that produced?
 

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This type of man could not fake or lie.
:D Why not? You think he's honest because he's got has a dumb fuck happy face while singing a pop song. Of course he can lie.

I also saw the ISS pass over on clear nights at the farm.
You saw something in the sky, that's fine. But that is not proof that it is the ISS in orbit around a ball earth.

I believe everything published about space from all quarters is true except the manned moon landings.
If you believe they faked the moon landing, then why would you believe anything they claim?

How was that produced?
In a film studio.
 

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But I never said there is no ISS, I said there is no ISS in space.

OK good, so we see along similar lines, perhaps we need to define 'Space'?
Meanwhile we can take for granted that it is where it says it is in LEO - Sure we (people on the ground) check the evidence nightly . . .
As is mentioned
I also saw the ISS pass over on clear nights at the farm.

And is shown . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5yx5bvIqmA



There are many Home Telescope views of the ISS to be seen on Youtube, it's really up there, travelling in a fast moving orbit, no?

That is because the vacuum of space next to earth without a physical barrier is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics, which can be demonstrated in a scientific experiment; therefore the ISS cannot be in a place that cannot exist according to laws of nature.

But what do we know about 'the vacuum of space' ???
Certainly it's not like a giant hoover hovering around the Earth trying to suck away the atmosphere, where would it get sucked to, there's no place, is there?
Besides the Earth has attractive power (gravity, if you like) which apparently overrides any potential "Vaccum", perhaps due to the planets massive integral size.
 

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OK good, so we see along similar lines, perhaps we need to define 'Space'?
Space is claimed to be a vacuum, adjacent next to a gas pressure system, without a physical barrier or container. That's impossible according to the second law, so if you disagree then provide a scientific experiment which demonstrates a vacuum next to gas without a container.

There are many Home Telescope views of the ISS to be seen on Youtube, it's really up there, travelling in a fast moving orbit, no?
I specifically said to Val "You saw something in the sky, that's fine." So I'm not denying we can see something up there in the sky. I just don't believe that it's a vacuum orbiting a ball earth at 8 km per second (17,900 mph).

But what do we know about 'the vacuum of space' ???
We don't know anything because it has not and cannot be proven. You take NASA's word for it that it's real.

Certainly it's not like a giant hoover hovering around the Earth trying to suck away the atmosphere, where would it get sucked to,
I never said it's like a giant hoover. The second law states that gas moves from volumes of higher pressure to lower pressure. There is no sucking. The atmosphere would push into the lower pressure vacuum of space.

there's no place, is there?
There's no place in the infinite vacuum of space?

Besides the Earth has attractive power (gravity, if you like) which apparently overrides any potential "Vaccum", perhaps due to the planets massive integral size.
So gravity contains gas? Okay, show me a demonstration of gas being contained by gravity.
 

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