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Russia have supplied Wagner troops to 5 west africian countries which were colonies of France where they were forced to use a french version of the petrodollar to rob them of everything ,
and this currency could then only be used to buy goods in France at a hopeless exchange rate meaning they were robbed both ends of the deal being given a joke currency for their minerals at the start .
they are sick of France robbing them and have used Wagner to oust the french from an area the size of Europe and which contains all the uranium and other valuable metals they used to steal for the past 50 years .
not any more -you could say Putin has surprised them and hurt the bastards where it really hurts .
France is a wealthy country and like the UK robbed the colonies to make them look successful -- drug dealers in mercs and ferraris also look successful but its based on the utter misery of others .
so much for egalatie fraternitie .
Amazing. Now that Africans are being run by the Yellow Horde, they can all fuck off back home out of Europe. But no, still they arrive into Europe in huge numbers. Dont seem to like the Asian Mongols any better than the evil white man.
 

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Total bollux

It's been starting to collapse for the last two years according to you and now, oh look, it's starting to collapse all over again!
Hey dont knock it. Do you know that only blue jumpers are available to buy in Moscow now. All other colours are unavailable.
 

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Hey dont knock it. Do you know that only blue jumpers are available to buy in Moscow now. All other colours are unavailable.
Those damn sanctions.

Meanwhile, The West gets all the colours of the (queer) rainbow. :ROFLMAO:
 

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All these fakes have been debunked
The first oddity
The U.S. Embassy warned Russia on the night of March 7-8 that terrorists were preparing for an attack. Putin mocked the Americans' warnings, after which they were ignored. It is known that one of the attackers conducted reconnaissance in "Crocus" a day before the US Embassy's warning about the attack: the terrorist was then captured on cameras.
If the Kremlin, despite warnings, was not even aware of the terrorists' plans, this is the biggest failure of the Russian security services in recent years.
US didn't give any details about the possible attack. Russia knows without USA that Islamists are planning attacks all the time

The second oddity
The special forces took too long to arrive at the scene of the terrorist attack. The Russian guards arrived at the scene of the terrorist attack almost an hour after it began. During this time, the terrorists could have escaped, which they did. The firefighters could not begin to fully extinguish the fire, as they were waiting for the special forces to "clear the area".
The first units arrived after 15 minutes after the first reports.
It was massive panic caused by fire and shooting, so they tried to wait for more reinforcement

The third oddity
Official Kremlin statements. While the fire in Crocus City Hall had not even been extinguished yet, Russian authorities blamed Ukraine for the terrorist attack with absolutely no evidence.
Despite the fact that the suspects in the terrorist attack turned out to be Tajik citizens associated with ISIS, and the group itself claimed responsibility, the Kremlin has not given up on the "Ukrainian trace".
Although this version is so untenable that even in Putin's entourage do not believe in it, it fits perfectly into the overall picture of Russian propaganda designed to demonize Ukraine.
The investigation itself and official statements by the authorities have been adjusted to this version, and Russian propagandists have been instructed to disseminate it as much as possible in the media.
According to the Kremlin's logic, by blaming Ukraine for this barbaric terrorist attack, it will be able to rally Russians to facilitate the upcoming mobilization. It is also worth noting that Putin did not address the nation on the day of the attack, but only almost 24 hours later. The Kremlin spent almost a full day looking for any evidence of Ukraine's involvement, but failed to find any.
First, if West can blame Putin in Navalny death without any evidence, them everybody can play such games
Second, nobody was blaming Ukraine until terrorists were spotted on road which can bring them only to Ukraine
Fourth oddity
The terrorists' route. The alleged perpetrators of the terrorist attack did not change their car when they escaped, even though it was already wanted, making their escape almost impossible.
Armed men, after leaving Moscow, could easily hide in a forest belt in the Moscow region, after which they could change vehicles several times. However, they did not do this and decided to break through to the border in a car, which the law enforcers were looking for.
terrorists were pretending that they are Chechens, this is why most effort have been put on blocking roads leading to south and east
The terrorists drove through the Moscow region on one of the main highways at a speed of 50 km/h. They were stopped only after 300 kilometers. Why were they allowed to get so far away?
Because police could not access the security room where all videos are stored for a few hours due to the fire, so reg of the car was not known
Plus some witnesses with dashcam recordings had to drive away because they were scared

Putin claims that the terrorists initially broke through to the Ukrainian border because there was a "window" open for them.
Later, Belarusian dictator Lukashenka made Putin's version null and void, saying that the Crocus attackers "could not enter" Belarus because of the reinforced border, so they headed toward Ukraine.
How terrorist would know that the border with Belarus is already blocked?
They turned away from P-120 to M3 at the first opportunity without trying to drive to Belarus

That is, they did not plan to go to Ukraine from the beginning, which is reasonable: everything is mined and unsafe there, while in Belarus, given the open border with Russia, it's faster and easier to get there.
Ukraine is the only place on earth where they can hide

There is another option that the terrorists got lost and drove wherever they were going, although if we take into account that the attack itself was well-planned, the escape plan should be planned as well.
The escape plan was actually well-planned because nobody was expecting them to drive the same car in direction different and far away from possible known Islamists hideouts

Fifth oddity
The reaction of the Russian authorities to the terrorist attack. Russian security services missed the preparation of the terrorist attack, failed to prevent it, or failed to eliminate the terrorists at the scene of the crime. It is not known where the terrorists got the weapons and how many of them there actually were. Authorities are not releasing surveillance video.
Because they were using Ukrainian terrorist infrastructure used before for killing quite a few public persons in Russia

The suspects were brutally tortured
The ear of one of the alleged terrorists was cut off and forced to eat it, another suspect was tortured by electrocution with wires to his genitals. It is no secret that Russian security forces torture people, but in the past they tried to do it secretly.
terrorist has been arrested by army spetsnaz units from Russia and Chechnya
those guys trained quickly to extract information on the field and they had to do it to prevent other possible attacks
of course, extracted information cannot be used in court, but helped to arrest another 7 guys involved into shooting
as I said before - without ears Shahid cannot go to heaven, so it was a wise efficient approach against possible islamist
 

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Ukraine is the only place on earth where they can hide
Your post is just an embarrassment. At the very least, it points to staggering, almost unbelievable, incompetence.

How can we believe anything the Russians say about this event?

But the part quoted above is the worst.

How can it be somehow harder to cross the Belarus border, than the fucking warzone that is the Russian-Ukraine border?

But Lukashenkos statement still stands. It really cant be spun. The attackers tried for Belarus first.

That's all we need to know.

All the other issues pointed out about the lack of police response and the US warning in advance, etc, that's just the gravy.

The more you try to explain things away, the worse it sounds.
 
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Really tough days for the only officially titled establishment bootlicker on the site.
Fair play to the mods for confirming its title.
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Lol, how sad.
Dadddddyyyyyyyy.....😂 😂 😂 😂
 

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Your post is just an embarrassment. At the very least, it points to staggering, almost unbelievable, incompetence.

How can we believe anything the Russians say about this event?

But the part quoted above is the worst.

How can it be somehow harder to cross the Belarus border, than the fucking warzone that is the Russian-Ukraine border?
First, I know this area a bit because I was beginning my army service as a conscript there
They chose M3 because they could easily reach a massive forest with swaps on border between Russia and Ukraine
There is no fighting there because it is a real challenge to bring any armor there
Russia keeps some Spetsnaz units in case Ukraine will try to send small units through, but they are looking only in the direction from ukraine, not to Ukraine
As a crossing point, it is nearly perfect - no fighting, no solid defense line
If they would have another 3-4 hours and they would reach the swamps - then dogs would be useless
As a conscript, I have played a few times hide-and-seek games against "reconnaissance units"(word Spetsnaz was secret at this time) and I can see how good their chances were
But Lukashenkos statement still stands. It really cant be spun. The attackers tried for Belarus first.
That's all we need to know.
First try to prove it with a map to match the timing
you sounds pathetic when you try to ignore geography and maths
 

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First, I know this area a bit because I was beginning my army service as a conscript there
They chose M3 because they could easily reach a massive forest with swaps on border between Russia and Ukraine
There is no fighting there because it is a real challenge to bring any armor there
Russia keeps some Spetsnaz units in case Ukraine will try to send small units through, but they are looking only in the direction from ukraine, not to Ukraine
As a crossing point, it is nearly perfect - no fighting, no solid defense line
If they would have another 3-4 hours and they would reach the swamps - then dogs would be useless
As a conscript, I have played a few times hide-and-seek games against "reconnaissance units"(word Spetsnaz was secret at this time) and I can see how good their chances were

First try to prove it with a map to match the timing
you sounds pathetic when you try to ignore geography and maths
The establishment bootlicker is sending me PM's now because I refuse to engage with it........'conversations' I immediately leave.
It's got such serious daddy issues, it's been online constantly since 3.07am today begging for attention.
Poor Charlottesweb, driving posters away from the site on a daily basis.:cool:
 
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