Origins Thread

Do you believe in evolution?

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Tiger said:
Stop embarrassing yourself James.

Stop spamming the thread too.
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So can you explain why you think that I should be "embarrassed" to talk about abiogenesis, or you just going to dodge as per usual?
 
Firstly, you acted like it was embarrassing in the way you were posting about it and secondly it’s obvious that someone who thinks life magically started itself somehow, would be embarrassed that they can’t offer up any kind of satisfactory explanation as to how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell.
 
Tiger said:
James, genuine question…have you been drinking? You’re literally going back to where we were over an hour ago.

Yes, the imaginary, magical beginning of life from non-life event - known as ‘abiogenesis’ is a different part of the atheist fantasy of how we got here, from the developmentally magical fantasy known as evolution.
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I mean, paragraphs like the above truly astound me. Abiogenesis is "magical" but the creationist (God of the gaps) origin of life, isn't?

Evolution (a scientific fact and a scientific theory) is also "magical", yet the first humans (Adam and Eve) popping into existence, isn't? (Also note: "from the")

If creationists are good for producing one thing, it's irony
 
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Tiger said:
Firstly, you acted like it was embarrassing in the way you were posting about it
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How did I do that? 🤔

Tiger said:
and secondly it’s obvious that someone who thinks life magically started itself somehow, would be embarrassed that they can’t offer up any kind of satisfactory explanation as to how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell.
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I don't believe in "magic"

Neither you nor I are a biochemist but what's so "magic" about living matter arising from non-living? How much of you do you do you think is living? Is the carbon in your body alive?
 
Tiger said:
Firstly, you acted like it was embarrassing in the way you were posting about it and secondly it’s obvious that someone who thinks life magically started itself somehow, would be embarrassed that they can’t offer up any kind of satisfactory explanation as to how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell.
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Classic.

God of the gaps - Wikipedia

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Haven said:
Classic.

God of the gaps - Wikipedia

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*yawn

The AUL knee jerk God of the gaps retort. It’s like a comfort blanket for evolutionists.

The problem is, they’re not so much as gaps as giant abysses. Calling them gaps conveniently ignores that evolution has no mechanism to bridge these vast chasms, from lifeless chemistry to coded functional life.
 
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AN2 said:
How did I do that? 🤔


I don't believe in "magic"

Neither you nor I are a biochemist but what's so "magic" about living matter arising from non-living? How much of you do you do you think is living? Is the carbon in your body alive?
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Tiger said:
*yawn

The AUL knee jerk God of the gaps retort. It’s like a comfort blanket for evolutionists.

The problem is, they’re not so much as gaps as giant abysses. Calling them gaps conveniently ignores that evolution has no mechanism to bridge these vast chasms, from lifeless chemistry to coded functional life.
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This is such a monstrosity of a post AKA a Tiger post

I suppose I should let @Haven have first dibs (because after I'm finished with it there'll be nothing left)
 
AN2 said:
This is such a monstrosity of a post AKA a Tiger post

I suppose I should let @Haven have first dibs (because after I'm finished with it there'll be nothing left)
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Haha, James ‘tiny Willy’ Dawson is about to tell us all how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell.

Gather around everyone 😆

Tenner bet his reply doesn’t involve solving the problem and is just mindless guff.

Canadian Lol GIF
 
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Tiger said:
Haha, James ‘tiny Willy’ Dawson
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I find it really lame how you (and Woof) copy Mowl

Tiger said:
is about to tell us all how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell.

Gather around everyone 😆

Tenner bet his reply doesn’t involve solving the problem and is just mindless guff.

Canadian Lol GIF
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AN2 said:
How did I do that? 🤔


I don't believe in "magic"

Neither you nor I are a biochemist but what's so "magic" about living matter arising from non-living? How much of you do you do you think is living? Is the carbon in your body alive?
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It’s mad that you think this hopeless response demands reply. It doesn’t. You’ve said nothing as usual.

Ignoring your now disbelief in ‘magic’, can you tell us more about the emergence of functional, information-rich, self replicating systems?
 
Tiger said:
It’s mad that you think this hopeless response demands reply. It doesn’t. You’ve said nothing as usual.
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More hand-waving - entirely predictable

Tiger said:
Ignoring your now disbelief in ‘magic’, can you tell us more about the emergence of functional, information-rich, self replicating systems?
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AN2 said:
Your questions are answered and are stupid, repetitively so
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Yes, so stupid that you can’t answer them…

Can you tell us about the emergence of functional, information-rich, self replicating systems from an evolutionary perspective, only using facts?
 
AN2 said:
Good thread here on why creationists conflate abiogenesis and evolution -


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/j3g7uz/why_do_creationists_always_try_to_say_that/
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Another excellent comment -

It's primarily used as a distraction tool.

The strategy for creationism is to instill doubt rather than formulate hypotheses or do experiments. It's seen as a victory for them if they can point to something where the answer is, "We don't know."

Since we have a lot of evidence for evolution but not abiogenesis, the latter is the preferred gish-gallop target.
 
Apparently James’s enthusiasm to give me a black eye around the enormous abysses he and his gay pal - Tank call ‘gaps’ in evolution and abiogenesis, that he forgot to actually answer the question, so, here it is again:

Can you tell us about how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell James?
 
AN2 said:
Another excellent comment -

It's primarily used as a distraction tool.

The strategy for creationism is to instill doubt rather than formulate hypotheses or do experiments. It's seen as a victory for them if they can point to something where the answer is, "We don't know."

Since we have a lot of evidence for evolution but not abiogenesis, the latter is the preferred gish-gallop target.
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Yes James, in case you haven’t noticed, we’re awaiting your hypothesis about abiogenesis with bated breath… off you go…
 
Tiger said:
Apparently James’s enthusiasm to give me a black eye around the enormous abysses he and his gay pal - Tank call ‘gaps’ in evolution and abiogenesis, that he forgot to actually answer the question, so, here it is again:
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Gaps in evolution 🤔 what are you blathering about? It's the same thing as always, isn't it. You're conflating abiogensis and evolution. God, you're so tiresome

Tiger said:
Can you tell us about how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell James?
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QED
 
Gosh, I'd hate to be an IDiot.. ignorance, stupidity, obtuseness, mendacity, deceitfulness, no interest in the truth..

I just couldn't be one
 
AN2 said:
Gaps in evolution 🤔 what are you blathering about? It's the same thing as always, isn't it. You're conflating abiogensis and evolution. God, you're so tiresome


QED
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James ‘no debate’ Dawson 👆👆👆👆Literally never says anything. Just yappy throwaway guff.
 
AN2 said:
Gosh, I'd hate to be an IDiot.. ignorance, stupidity, obtuseness, mendacity, deceitfulness, no interest in the truth..

I just couldn't be one
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James ‘no debate’ Dawson 👆👆👆👆Literally never says anything. Just yappy throwaway guff.
 
AN2 said:
Yep, handwaving again. Usual
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James ‘no debate’ Dawson 👆👆👆👆Literally never says anything. Just yappy throwaway guff.

One of these days, surely he’ll have something to offer the debate. Surely.
 
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Tiger said:
Apparently James’s enthusiasm to give me a black eye around the enormous abysses he and his gay pal - Tank call ‘gaps’ in evolution and abiogenesis, that he forgot to actually answer the question, so, here it is again:
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Tiger said:
Can you tell us about how lifeless matter transformed into the first living cell James?
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Could you Tiger (I've of course given my answer umpteen times)?

So, if you want to prove that you're not deceitful, then simply write your hypothesis here:


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AN2 said:
Could you Tiger (I've of course given my answer umpteen times)?

So, if you want to prove that you're not deceitful, then simply write your hypothesis here:


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Ok James, you are now on a warning for a 48 hour ban.

Relentless spam posts followed by a lame attempt asking me to answer my own phucking challenge to YOU is mindless trolling.

If the next post that you contribute doesn’t attempt to answer any question or contribute to the scientific discussion, it is going to be an automatic ban.

Stop spamming and trolling.
 
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Tiger said:
Ok James, you are now on a warning for a 48 hour ban.

Relentless spam posts followed by a lame attempt asking me to answer my own challenge to you is trolling.

If the next post that you contribute doesn’t attempt to answer any question or contribute to the scientific discussion it is going to be an automatic ban.

Stop spamming and trolling.
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This is my thread as much as it is yours. It should never have been put in your blog

I'm surprised that it's taken you so long to threaten to ban me with your weasel lies ("spamming", "trolling" etc.)

@Declan @jpc

If the site allows you to ban me from my own thread, then shame on it
 
AN2 said:
This is my thread as much as it is yours. It should never have been put in your blog

I'm surprised that it's taken you so long to threaten to ban me with your weasel lies

@Declan @jpc

If the site allows you to ban me from my own thread, then shame on it
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Stoopid is as stoopid does…
 
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Tiger said:
Stoopid is as stoopid does…
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You're a weasel liar

Three consecutive days (a hat-trick) of you humiliating yourself.. you have not taken well
 
AN2 said:
You're a weasel liar

Three consecutive days (a hat-trick) of you humiliating yourself.. you have not taken well
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Stop spamming the thread you bum.
 
Haven said:
How many AI detectors did you try before you got the answer you wanted?
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By the way, your Originality.ai is on the second page of Google search results, so how many AI detectors did you try before you got the answer you wanted?
 
Hermit said:
By the way, your Originality.ai is on the second page of Google search results, so how many AI detectors did you try before you got the answer you wanted?
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None. I checked for the best rated detector, and Originality.ai came up, amongst others.

I didnt go with the one that paid to be first on the page. Like you did.
 
Tiger said:
Watch this documentary.


View: https://youtu.be/ayU6dDtu0hU?si=h5fATGhHMtgT3m86
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An intelligent designer would not create something which has 99.99999% useless, empty space. It's simply poor design not becoming of the most genius designer of all. The creator wanted to create life, so it created this realm we call earth for us to live in. No need for a gazillion other planets, black holes, big bang, bendy spacetime and other violations of the creator's own laws of physics it established on earth. That's redundant overkill in design terms. All that superfluous junk is unnecessary when all required is the earth with the sun, stars and planets above. That is the universe.
 
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