The Earth is Global.

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Earth's Global. Show us what you've got.

The following image reminds us of what we see in reality when we observe weather balloon footage or even views from the jet window. Both perspectives are high enough to supposedly observe a flat earth but we never get to view any images, pictures that would be available 24/7/365 simply do not exist.

This is from the space station and it explains clearly why we can never see a flat Earth . . .

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Now, here's a live rocket launch to ponder and enjoy, skip to 07:00 where the picture stabilizes and perhaps slow it down by half and stop it at different positions to study what's been shown.

It's been filmed with Rectilinear Lenses and gives us a better perspective of earths curvature.
Importantly it provides us with scale to the horizon - it demonstrates a real example of how much of the surface could possibly be seen on a globe.

Etc etc . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsEPEhq5yk&list=PLQCOKOZuhSS2L8beLNb9qHNdRJu3qHnSU&index=19
 
Professor said:
Earth's Global. Show us what you've got.

The following image reminds us of what we see in reality when we observe weather balloon footage or even views from the jet window. Both perspectives are high enough to supposedly observe a flat earth but we never get to view any images, pictures that would be available 24/7/365 simply do not exist.

This is from the space station and it explains clearly why we can never see a flat Earth . . .

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Do you see this as an important issue? And if so, why?
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
Do you see this as an important issue? And if so, why?
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I see it as an amazing issue in that there are opposed views on the subject and always have been, it's just nowadays the proof and means of gathering proof is readily available for all to ponder.

There exists a school of thought which believes the Earth is Flat in Totality, dismissing all contrary proofs, discoveries and science gathered in the past 3000 years.
A Theory trying to establish itself as Truthful Fact cannot be allowed to so by vandalising and rubbishing the existing True Proven Facts by sophisticated untruth and misjudgment. 😌
 
It's well known that NASA photoshops images of the Earth, also you have the fish-eyed lens effect that shows a curve and a straight line horizon.

www.space.com

Conspiracy Debunked: NASA Photoshops Images for Good Reason

The recent revelation that a NASA photo was touched up before being released to the public is not evidence that the space agency has something to hide. NASA routinely processes raw images to enhance details, or to visualize things the human eye could neve
www.space.com www.space.com

Now I'm not saying the Earth is flat, but in truth, we really don't know and we are relying on second hand information.
 
Well made point Anderson but the point of my images is 1.primarily to acknowledge the surface area of the global earth, 2.The curvature (fisheye) is secondary

Anderson said:
we really don't know and we are relying on second hand information.
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We do Know that the ISS is International and not a NASA laboratory of invention.
We are familiar with the OP image by our own experience in jet planes, that's very first hand to all.
The images in the vid are Nasa free and non fish eye as stated. The vid shows how easy it is for a group of FlatEarthers to make a rocket and send it up to make a vid of their reality and we can compare, no need for second hand information.
We all await . . .
 
Professor said:
Now, here's a live rocket launch to ponder and enjoy, skip to 07:00 where the picture stabilizes and perhaps slow it down by half and stop it at different positions to study what's been shown.

It's been filmed with Rectilinear Lenses and gives us a better perspective of earths curvature.
Importantly it provides us with scale to the horizon - it demonstrates a real example of how much of the surface could possibly be seen on a globe.

Etc etc . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsEPEhq5yk&list=PLQCOKOZuhSS2L8beLNb9qHNdRJu3qHnSU&index=19
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Interesting. The Earth looks like a flat disc in this video, despite the fisheye lens distortion. There also appears to be a glowing ice wall around the whole perimeter.
 
PlunkettsGhost said:
Interesting. The Earth looks like a flat disc in this video, despite the fisheye lens distortion. There also appears to be a glowing ice wall around the whole perimeter.
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Your analysis above is very interesting sir, thank you for participating.
See, I chose this video from a section on youtube entitled "Non Fish Eye Lense HA Footage".
That "glowing" is known to be the atmosphere illuminating with sunlight but lets say it's an Ice wall then at least now we have a definite position to as where it's located??

Once we have a location then we can advance to that point and send up a balloon and take some pictures?
The horizon is relatively close to the camera location.
Like the OP image - Ireland is located right at the horizon line, we can catch a plane from Spain and arrive in Dublin 2.5 hours later - Importantly its a short distance but that's all the terrain view which a globe can present but we know for sure that we're nowhere near the edge and there's no end of planet??

Think about that, visible curvature is secondary in this analysis, - beyond the horizon is the invisible terrain . . .
 
Professor said:
That "glowing" is known to be the atmosphere illuminating with sunlight
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if there is no lens distortion, than the Earth is very tiny indeed. There is clearly no discernable earth curve before we hit the horizon. Flat as a disc
 
PlunkettsGhost said:
if there is no lens distortion, than the Earth is very tiny indeed. There is clearly no discernable earth curve before we hit the horizon. Flat as a disc
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See, I'm learning that the Flat View must see all the countries spread out on the horizontal plane, now your comment suggests the earth is tiny because your horizontal view only shows a continent and half an ocean but the thing is on a globe all the other continents and oceans are on the unseen planes.

So to compare in simple terms the vids focal range (being only 59 miles high) covers all of the "11" spot

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The other planes are unseen. If we are at ISS altitude then we can see as far as Irelands tip and behind us we would see Nigeria or perhaps a bit beyond.

Look at a map of the world and draw a circle with the centre over morocco and a radius which stretches to Ireland and that's your field of view - Where's the remaining terrain? There's a lot to be accounted for🧐
 
PlunkettsGhost said:
Interesting. The Earth looks like a flat disc in this video, despite the fisheye lens distortion. There also appears to be a glowing ice wall around the whole perimeter.
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I find it impossible to care about this question of the earth's shape, do you find that particularly nihilistic?
 
Professor said:
See, I'm learning that the Flat View must see all the countries spread out on the horizontal plane,
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Not really. It depends on altitude from the ground plane. As we know, the horizon is an illusion created by both our distance from the ground, and the limitations of optics. Modern cameras for example, have pushed back our ability to see 'horizons' much farther than the eye can see.

in looking at the video a second time, it's clear the rocket doesn't get very high. Hence the limited range of what we can see.
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
Were you a Geocentrist before you became a Flat Earther so to speak?
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I was indifferent until I discovered that combating geocentrism was a Kabbalisitc agenda. I did understand that the idea of populating space was likely pointless and unrealistic, practically speaking.
 
PlunkettsGhost said:
I was indifferent until I discovered that combating geocentrism was a Kabbalisitc agenda. I did understand that the idea of populating space was likely pointless and unrealistic, practically speaking.
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It is not something I shout about but I have been inclined more towards geocentrism than heliocentrism from 14/15. Astrology which I understand the problems with as it can easily lead into paganism and fatalism but which must have something to it as it has been around for so long and in so many different cultures works on Geocentric principles for one. Father George Florensky the great Russian mathematician, art historian and philosopher believed he had scientifically proven that the Sun goes around the Earth and not visa versa.

How is combating Geocentrism a Kabbalahistic agenda though? The Talmud teaches a flat earth with all that entails.
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
How is combating Geocentrism a Kabbalahistic agenda though? The Talmud teaches a flat earth with all that entails.
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The Kabbalah promotes the gnostic idea that the Earth is a material prison, something to be left behind and ascended away from. This was a strong motivator for the Space industry, which is soaked in occult symbolism and perpetuated by Freemasons, for the most part.
 
PlunkettsGhost said:

The Occult History Behind NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory

"Drug use and orgies is just a hard thing to fold into NASA’s official story."
www.supercluster.com www.supercluster.com

www.wired.co.uk

Occultist father of rocketry 'written out' of Nasa's history

Jack Parsons was a founding member of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Lab, with some calling him one of the 'fathers of rocketry', but you won't find much about him on Nasa's websites
www.wired.co.uk www.wired.co.uk
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I literally heard about this story for the first time about 2 hours ago on a podcast.
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
I find it impossible to care about this question of the earth's shape, do you find that particularly nihilistic?
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We all see things differently, I'm very much a Naturalist and marvel at all things to be seen & heard in the Universe, It's my TV entertainment.
On a plane I thankfully switch off all devices and stare out the windows constantly looking at everything to be seen.
I'll be bringing back some Vids here from my next flight to see what can be made of it.
If ever you decide later to take flying lessons or do a sky dive for charity then you'll probably change your mind

David has been banned said:
So, @Zipporah's Flint, you booted me from the anti-evolution thread (by Mad as a Tiger) because it was in the Religion forum.. So why shouldn't you be booted from this thread because it's in the Science forum? 🤔
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Because science and religion are compatible & traditionally very complimentary in various ways,
And because this thread enjoys all universal contributions and you are learning to develop compassion & tolerance for the 2024 new year🤗
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
I find it impossible to care about this question of the earth's shape, do you find that particularly nihilistic?
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It's not only the Earths shape it's about the earths position in space which has been observed for millennia, It's about acknowledging many other aspects of the earth and the history of humanity's developing relationship with the planet.
Shape is an important consideration for many of us especially since there is evidence that Earth is a Geoid and as such it goes to accommodate elements of FlatEarthism I can appreciate too.
 
David has been banned said:
Religion is inherently unscientific (as is rubbish like astrology) there is no compatibility.
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Aspects of Christendom closely resemble and are precisely aligned with Astronomy though, agreed?

Also just because you are ignorant to the authentic origins and meanings of Astrology doesn't make it rubbish at all.
David has been banned said:
Just because a priest happened to be a good scientist, a good scientist happens to be religious (rare) or a religious institution changes to formally accept scientific understanding.. doesn't mean the two are "compatible" as much as coexisting (with religion ceding all the ground)
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You forget the origins, the origins of religion, the early days and throughout, the religions were the libraries of old, they recorded everything known but like the pearls and swine they just didn't dispense worldly wisdom to the general public,
Anyway religions and sects of each are very different in their acknowledgements and applications of "Science".
One cannot generalise about religion the way you attempt to above.
 
David has been banned said:
If I even knew what you're trying to say I'm sure I wouldn't (agree)


Astrology is rubbish


What generalisation? It's just endless waffle with you pal
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You're ^ ^ resorting to known ^ ^ form there
1.Acting stupid or 2.Being an ignoramus or more likely 3.Being both together.

Lathered in condescension too, it's actually so you sir:D
 
David has been banned said:
You're really just a complete waste of time
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OK, so back on-topic for The Science's! - Astronomy! to which the ancient religions were very keen and used to their benefit especially the Abrahamic's who used starlight including our Sun to discover the origins of Christianity and is acknowledged by Christianity to this very day!

This is a thread on the Global aspect of the Earth and we can only progress through acknowledgement of the characteristics of the wider universe and how that affects us here on earth.

You've made some inaccurate and erroneous comments in regard to religion and I had to remind you of the facts as we know them, others here on-thread get reminded too. Astronomy includes Astrological positions of stars in the night sky - Very relevant and understood by all here so, to you I ask for you not to act so stupid as to be insulting our basic intelligence including your own.

Happy New Year Up & Cheer Up Instead🤩
 
David has been banned said:

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Looks like you're getting back on track, Good on you!
Here's some more . . .

Astrology is a map of the soul and shows God’s plan for us in this life. Throughout history, famous people have studied astrology and used it for several purposes such as Hippocrates, Sir Isaac Newton, Galileo and Pythagoras. Modern medicine today was created because of astrology. It was first started by associating certain parts of the physical body with the parts of the body associated with each of the twelve zodiac signs.
www.liveabout.com

Studying Astrology from a Christian's Perspective

Christian astrologer Carmen Turner-Schott shares her journey to understanding astrology as a spiritual tool that confirms God's plan for each of us.
www.liveabout.com www.liveabout.com
 
David has been banned said:
Astronomy (not astrology) you dip-fucking-shit
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So, you're not actually acting stupid by the look of it. You've regressed to launching an abusive stupid wind-up.
Stick around, you've obviously got much to learn.

Here's your next lesson in ABC format, it's Astrology & Astronomy combined.

zodiac.jpg

www.abc.net.au

A beginner's guide to finding stars and planets

Finding Jupiter or the Southern Cross is easy if you know where to look — and that's easy too once you know how the movement of the Earth affects our view of the sky.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
David has been banned said:
They're not the same thing (and one is science and the other pseudoscience)
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Yours is the opinion of a stupid ignoramus as the above statement absolutely confirms.
Just remember that it's a commonly understood fact that prior to telescopes, ancient astronomers used the astrological positions of the stars as an essential annual clock and navigation guide (GPS) as an individual with an understanding of astronomy would do today.
It's all the one science above in Earths night sky, but clearly you're too stupid and ignorant to even try to understand, it's beyond you, but Astonomers know and see the astrological positions so well they've charted maps for us to learn from, unless of course one is a stubborn ignoramus like yourself😂

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You are just too stupid and irrelevant to know what to do with the technology🤓
But that would change if your life depended upon it.
 
David has been banned said:
lol Dude, stop embarrassing yourself.

If you don't know what astrology is (amazing) then look up a definition of it, or read post #55. And then I think, perhaps bed? :)
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I'm amazed at you Dunce, disputing the science of early astronomy on little more than your inability to understand the facts of the matter due to your own self imposed ignore filter (dials 1-4) and carelessness.

It's hard to believe you're too stupid to understand the simple facts of the matter though . . .

Here, give it another try, don't give up yet . . .

. . . There are 12 zodiac constellations — the ones we're all familiar with from astrology.

Like the Sun and the planets, the zodiac constellations all lie in the ecliptic, so they're visible from every place on Earth where you can see the sun rise and set. This explains why they feature so prominently in ancient cultures.

The zodiac constellations span the entire sky, so we never face all 12 of them at once.

If you look up on a dark night, you should be able to see at least four zodiac constellations at any one time, lying across the ecliptic. During the night, as the Earth spins, each of these constellations will sink in the western sky, while others will rise in the east. All up, if you were to watch the sky for an entire night, you'd see up to 10 of the 12 zodiac constellations. The few that you can't see are in the patch of the sky blocked out by the Sun.

So learning to spot the zodiac constellations, knowing what order they appear in (the same order given in horoscopes) and knowing where the ecliptic is, means you should be able to pick out an impressive four or more constellations that everyone's heard of.
www.abc.net.au

A beginner's guide to finding stars and planets

Finding Jupiter or the Southern Cross is easy if you know where to look — and that's easy too once you know how the movement of the Earth affects our view of the sky.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Look Dunce, the above is a beginners guide, if you fail to grasp it's essential facts in relation to Astrology as defined then it may be wise for you to shut up on the subject, OK?🤨

There are other aspects of the thread you can focus on instead🥲
 

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