To The Moon

David has been banned said:
Yes (in the Newtonian model it was thought to be instantaneous) but nothing propagates faster than light. Which of course puts some of the spooky into 'spooky action at a distance' :) Wendy is your expert on quantum entanglement


If gravity was instantaneous, you're a few hundred years out of date Val :)
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Gravity does not travel, so it can be instantaneous
 
Kangal said:
Despite evidence and an experimental setup that even you Val could set up in your kitchen, Hermit conrinues to be ignorant of this force that dominates our daily existence.
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Even your hero, Sabine, says gravity is NOT a force:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LjJeeae68

David has been banned said:
Poppycock
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Isaac Newton on mass attracting mass:
"It is inconceivable that inanimate brute matter should, without the mediation of something else, which is not material, operate upon, and effect other matter without mutual contact, as it must be if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential and inherent in it.

And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe innate gravity to me. That gravity should be innate, inherent and essential to matter, so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum, without the mediation of anything else, by and through which their action and force may be conveyed from one to another, is to me a great absurdity, and I believe that no man who has in philosophical matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it.

Gravity must be caused by an agent acting constantly according to certain laws; but whether this agent be material or immaterial I have left to the consideration of my reader."
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Kangal said:
I think you are beginning to learn. Hermit.

This is good.
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You said gravity is a force, when even globe believers say it is not a force, so you're the one who's learning something here.

Still waiting for that experiment...

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David has been banned said:
That doesn't corroborate anything you said
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It does.

I said:
Hermit said:
Mass attracting mass is a theory that even Newton himself disowned. Gravity is no longer defined as mass attracts mass.
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You said:
David has been banned said:
Poppycock
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Newton's quote corroborates my claim that he disowned mass attracts mass - he said it was a "great absurdity":
"It is inconceivable that inanimate brute matter should, without the mediation of something else, which is not material, operate upon, and effect other matter without mutual contact, as it must be if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential and inherent in it.

And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe innate gravity to me. That gravity should be innate, inherent and essential to matter, so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum, without the mediation of anything else, by and through which their action and force may be conveyed from one to another, is to me a great absurdity, and I believe that no man who has in philosophical matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it.

Gravity must be caused by an agent acting constantly according to certain laws; but whether this agent be material or immaterial I have left to the consideration of my reader."
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So, we have rovers landing on mars, nine to the dozen, sending back pics like a Tiktoker. The Moon however, seems a harder nut to crack?

Of course these Mars pics are Devon Island in Canada. This fact should come as no shock to the incredulous among us.
 
Mass attracting Mass (old theory) is grade level Newtonian physics. Long since abandoned for the new theory that gravity is a distortion of spacetime.

All just theory of course
 
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Just shut up Kangal. There is amyriad of impossibilities and I will mention just one.

How did the three astronauts get from the splash down module to inside the quarantine chamber.
 
I will make it simple
Once the hatch was opened, an pathogen would come out, end of story.
 
Yes. The only way out was to open the hatch. End of story.
 
And the only wY to pick them out of the water was by boat. End of story.
 
Kangal said:
And that was addressed by
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You know what's never been addressed? The moon buggy. A Jeep chassis (very heavy) and quite large and bulky. Where the hell was it stored away in that tiny lander? Why have we no video of it being off loaded and assembled?

And don't forget, we were told there was such a concern for saving weight, that they trimmed the border of a microfiche Bible they brought alone:

Aldrin brought a scrap of Scripture with him to the lunar surface, likely because a full printed copy of the holy book did not fit within NASA’s stringent weight requirements. So the Apollo Prayer League, determined to land a Bible on the moon, created microfilm versions of the Bible.
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religionnews.com

5 faith facts about the moon landing: Space Communion and a prayer league of its own

(RNS) — From the beginning of NASA's Apollo program, those inspired by the wonder of space travel determined to make their faith part of the journey to the moon.
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And they still found room for a set of golf clubs!


I call B.S. on the whole episode.
 
Yes. And into the helicopter they went.

Or do you think it was a drone.

It was all a drama for a stupid public.
 
It would kill the people on the helicopter first.
 
Kangal said:
In the middle of an ocean. How exactly would it propagate itself?
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Given the unknown nature of such a pathogen (vectors and so forth), this was a huge risk to be taking.

If real, the astronauts would have been confined to a research ship with tight quarantine facilities
 

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