To The Moon

Kangal said:
Ok. And that's the end of it as the helicopter sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
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Exactly. And they were exposed because there was no pathogen as the craft never was out in space to pick any unknown pathogen .

So the astronauts are transported and needless to say the crew were not isolated.

It was flash Gordon era optics.


Now, you have derailed enough this thread.

Once that hatch was opened. Anything inside was out. QED
 
Kangal said:
Refute what Hermit?
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If you disagree with something then provide your reasoning so it can at least be debated. Saying "that's the dumbest thing..." without offering your reasoning why is merely hand-waving and does nothing for the discussion.

Kangal said:
SCUBA uses pressurised air, of which 21% is oxygen. When you breathe you use 4% on average. In SCUBA, your expired breath is lost as the mechanism is open cycle. You're never going to use up all the oxygen available in the tank. Most of it is expelled.

The Apollo PLSS could store over 1kg of oxygen (it varied over the missions as needed) leading to 100% O2 for the astronaut in a closed cycle environment. A human consumes 850g of O2 in a day. The PLSS units were recharged at the end of each EVA and the O2 topped up.

There's more to it but that's the gist. Anyone with a slight technical acumen can figure this out.
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There you go, that's all you had to do in the first place.
 
Kangal has been removed because he has no answer to the obvious.

And neither does anyone else either.
 
I will have a gander and leave a comment later.
I watched waters and unas introductions just now this morning.
 
Folks, I have now posted 4 videos on the moon landings from the Channel. It takes a long time to find these as they are back 2 years and when I find one and copy it goes back the today.

You might find them interesting. They are purely evidence based as they say in forensics, every contact leaves a trace. Another reason is that by having them here, I can find them easily.

Let me know what you think, in the intervening two years, Artemis came and went and I suspect the results revealed that no human can ever go beyond low earth orbit and live a healthy life thereafter. In 54 years no living thing ever went beyond LEO, let alone to the moon. Yet they tell us they landed on it 6 times.
 
I will watch all. Artimus was supposed to fly by the moon with people this September, but it has been postponed till at least a year more. And a landing would be another year. We shall wait a little longer after waiting 55 years.

That in of itself should tell you it was faked.
 
Declan said:
I will watch all. Artimus was supposed to fly by the moon with people this September, but it has been postponed till at least a year more. And a landing would be another year. We shall wait a little longer after waiting 55 years.

That in of itself should tell you it was faked.
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I love to see measured opinion on this. However the evidence for a hoax is accumulating. The moon landing were all that was going to be and NASA would steer clear of the moon. They would go elsewhere. No other country is coming near landing one man man it. NASA would forget about it. Then along came Guess who?????????????? See next post
 
Along came Trump. an outsider full of big ideas including going back to the moon. OMG.

First thing was send up Artemis to see what the radiation was like. No results were published whatsoever. The result was a week long trip would bring on cancer in everyone involved. No person will go beyond low earth orbit in the lifetime of any baby born to day. Apollo was a hoax, I am convinced of it. It cannot be prove Apollo was real because no one will ever land on the moon again.
 
I told you that years ago and you would not believe it.
 
My God, now your memory is failing, you were the most memorable man in Leinster.
 
It was definitely risky, why go six time? Twice would prove the point.
 
Never on the ditch. It is astounding that anyone would believe it
 
My father said from the 1st day, it is a hoax. The yanks are only good for making fiction films.

He was right, It was a follow on from Stanly Cubricks film 2001 odessy.
 
valamhic said:
This would move the filming from area 51 to Cannon air force base NM.
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Just apply logic to this video, he says they brough in powdered cement. probably ordinary portland cement. I use it all the time to build my cast housing empire. The colour matches
exactly the colour of the moon on Apollo films. The moon has a reddish tinge
 
It was Trump put the going on them for Artemis. They could not send people beyond LEO
in the current health and safety times. Artemis went up top test the radiation and the result was
no one can go. Space exploration is over for men and women.
 
Another moon mission cancelled. This was supposed to be the first civilian mission to the moon.

www.thejournal.ie

Moon mission that was to have Cork artist on board cancelled by billionaire funder

Rhiannon Adam was going to be the first Irish person to go to space.
www.thejournal.ie www.thejournal.ie

Notice of Project Cancellation

In 2018, Yusaku Maezawa announced dearMoon, the world’s first civilian circumlunar voyage aboard SpaceX’s space vehicle, Starship. The plan had included artists from around the world who would participate in the project to share the invaluable experience in space with the rest of the world. Arrangements were being made with SpaceX to target the launch by the end of 2023.

Unfortunately, however, launch within 2023 became unfeasible, and without clear schedule certainty in the near-term, it is with a heavy heart that Maezawa made the unavoidable decision to cancel the project. To all who have supported this project and looked forward to this endeavor, we sincerely appreciate it and apologize for this outcome.

Although dearMoon is cancelled, Maezawa and dearMoon crew members will continue to challenge themselves in their respective fields.

We will hold deep respect for SpaceX as they continue to venture into uncharted territories, while we ourselves will move on to the next challenge.
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I must get the time of the landing on The Time Tunnel episode
 
PlunkettsGhost said:
Looks totally fake. Weird, abrupt momentum changes
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True, it doesn't look realistic. sure even the early arcade video games had better flight control and certainly a much softer landing.

That landing appeared to stop dead with no recoil or shake and no debris disturbed.
Very very poor optics - I'm suspicious too, yesterdays cheap fake gopro's had as good if not better resolution.
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I think the Chinese mission is real, it does not tell us much about the colour at all. There does seem to be a reddish tinge in some of the photos.
 
This is the latest image from Change 6. I think it is authentic and not computer generated. The camera is mounted on the lander where I would expect. Go to 48 seconds in and see the leg of the lander with its pad pressing down on the lunar soil. It is a colour image capturing the craft's coloured parts and there also appears to be black and white images. Note 2 things.

1)The colour is a tinge of brown red the same as in previous Chang'e images, but not in the
Apollo images. The Chang'e 6 appears to give black and white images also and they are grey. This means that all images from Apollo were grey when the colour ones should have been reddish brown.

2) The leg pad landed and it is like a spider's leg, as the craft pressed down the pad was pressed out and as the craft rebounded up to its equilibrium position it pulled the pad back. The disturbed soil is clear to see. Apollo had none of this despite the fact that it was the exact same principle and had 2 men on board for extra weight.

The ascent of Chang'e 6 in computer animation shows the exhaust flame from the engine, the
real image from Apollo showed no flame. Appollo was there fore a hoax.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNu887jBpSc
 
See video post 599 earlier. Note how the legs should and did behave on all landings but not on Apollo. This is very good proof that Apollo was a fake. They should have dropped the lander on the set suddenly with a jerk to leave the marks but they left it down gently on a rope.

Note that the Chang'e 6 shows the surface as it comes in to land to have a shine. Like if you simmer custard of rice in a saucepan and let it cool. A slight skin will form. On the moon, settlement causes the similar effect over the long time frame of millions of years. There was none on Apollo because it was Portland cement poured over rocks with no settlement time.
 
valamhic said:
This is the latest image from Change 6. I think it is authentic and not computer generated. The camera is mounted on the lander where I would expect. Go to 48 seconds in and see the leg of the lander with its pad pressing down on the lunar soil. It is a colour image capturing the craft's coloured parts and there also appears to be black and white images. Note 2 things.

1)The colour is a tinge of brown red the same as in previous Chang'e images, but not in the
Apollo images. The Chang'e 6 appears to give black and white images also and they are grey. This means that all images from Apollo were grey when the colour ones should have been reddish brown.

2) The leg pad landed and it is like a spider's leg, as the craft pressed down the pad was pressed out and as the craft rebounded up to its equilibrium position it pulled the pad back. The disturbed soil is clear to see. Apollo had none of this despite the fact that it was the exact same principle and had 2 men on board for extra weight.

The ascent of Chang'e 6 in computer animation shows the exhaust flame from the engine, the
real image from Apollo showed no flame. Appollo was there fore a hoax.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNu887jBpSc
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Val, there is a much simpler debunking that does not require one to go into the weeds about landers and whatnot.

> Gas pressure is defined as as the force of gas particles colliding with the walls of its CONTAINER.
> There is gas pressure on earth (the air we breathe).
> Therefore the gas pressure on earth also requires a container.
> Without a container, the gas on earth would disperse freely in all directions into a vacuum of space if it existed.
> Therefore space does not and cannot exist because it would violate the second law of thermodynamics.
 

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