The Climate Change scam

[valamhic]

Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.

Well said. A bale of silage weighs half a ton. They are stored in the yard and have to be moved to the feeding apron. Cant lift them myself

 

[valamhic]

Indeed, a point that is too often ignored is that the west built its wealth on coal and oil and is now preventing the developing world from doing so in turn. It's as if the west is deliberately trying to hold them back and climate change is the latest ruse. Institutionalised racism in fact.

The British were forced out of India in 1948, the Mother Teresa suffering in Calcutta was going strong between about 1970to 1997. She wasn't gone a week until the whole suffering was over and the Indian government improved the living conditions of the poor. My opinion is let the fecker Oscar bullshitter Yanks in California die with the drouth. Why should India worry about them hoors?

 

[Fishalt]

Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.

Aye.

Urban progtards truly are the worst for lecturing farmers and primary producers about what they're doing wrong and why it's all their fault.

 

[Fishalt]

Indeed, a point that is too often ignored is that the west built its wealth on coal and oil and is now preventing the developing world from doing so in turn. It's as if the west is deliberately trying to hold them back and climate change is the latest ruse. Institutionalised racism in fact.

Yep.

It's all well and good for us to demand they get off oil. We've already had our fun with the dino juice and the big green rock.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Aye.

Urban progtards truly are the worst for lecturing farmers and primary producers about what they're doing wrong and why it's all their fault.

Everybody knows how to farm better than the farmers themselves.

 

[Mad as Fish]

The British were forced out of India in 1948, the Mother Teresa suffering in Calcutta was going strong between about 1970to 1997. She wasn't gone a week until the whole suffering was over and the Indian government improved the living conditions of the poor. My opinion is let the fecker Oscar bullshitter Yanks in California die with the drouth. Why should India worry about them hoors?

I hear India is getting its sanitation sorted at long last as well.

 

[valamhic]

If only tractor parts could be sourced elsewhere. Alas Val seems to be saying they cornered the market. This is a strategic disaster.

The fact is that parts like gear box wheels, engine crank shafts cam shafts, ( the important moving parts in power and transmission) used to be made in Japan, Germany and the UK. Diesel pumps with direct injection and with rail injection are still made there because these are critical, the quality of the internal parts must be top notch. Even then they break and there is a cottage industry fixing then. In the North East it is in Shercock. They are mounted externally so not too expensive.

EU law on manufacturing emissions, the high cost of electricity and oil made it uncompetitive to make crank shafts
cam shafts, gear wheels, inside tractors etc and they quit. The market was then taken up abroad with India being
top in my observation. The quality is mush worse because the parts are cast instead of dropforged. All external connectors such as hydraulic links are also make there. I observe they break and are made of inferior steel.

Europe make quality parts but was driven out by green governments under pressure from eco louts. India makes bad quality parts but suffer no restrictions from the EU or eco louts. Whether that equates to cornering the market I do not know. I believe the answer is to make examples of green louts and execute a few in every area as an example.

 

[valamhic]

Terrible globull warming coming to Britain next week.

MSN

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[Kangal]

The fact is that parts like gear box wheels, engine crank shafts cam shafts, ( the important moving parts in power and transmission) used to be made in Japan, Germany and the UK. Diesel pumps with direct injection and with rail injection are still made there because these are critical, the quality of the internal parts must be top notch. Even then they break and there is a cottage industry fixing then. In the North East it is in Shercock. They are mounted externally so not too expensive.

EU law on manufacturing emissions, the high cost of electricity and oil made it uncompetitive to make crank shafts
cam shafts, gear wheels, inside tractors etc and they quit. The market was then taken up abroad with India being
top in my observation. The quality is mush worse because the parts are cast instead of dropforged. All external connectors such as hydraulic links are also make there. I observe they break and are made of inferior steel.

Europe make quality parts but was driven out by green governments under pressure from eco louts. India makes bad quality parts but suffer no restrictions from the EU or eco louts. Whether that equates to cornering the market I do not know. I believe the answer is to make examples of green louts and execute a few in every area as an example.

Plenty of manufacturers in Europe Val.

List of European Agricultural Tractors Companies - Ezilon.com

List of European agricultural tractors companies based in Europe.

www.ezilon.com

 

[Mad as Fish]

Plenty of manufacturers in Europe Val.

List of European Agricultural Tractors Companies - Ezilon.com

List of European agricultural tractors companies based in Europe.

www.ezilon.com

That says nothing about where the components are made.

Anyhow, I would take issue with Val slightly here as components are in fact very well made, the major western manufacturers insist on it and most are made in the EU or USA.

The first on that list is AGCO (Massey Ferguson, Fendt and Valtra), and the corporation has recently invested A billion in a new engine family and factory in Finland. They don’t piss about with substandard crap from India.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

In the North East it is in Shercock.

I think that's the chicken factory where Saul occasionally helps out.

 

[Zipporah's Flint]

Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.

Not if you are living in some Kibbutz in occupied Palestine and have a trawl of Thai, Philipino and indigenous helots to do the work of tractors for you you don't.

The thing about the climate change debates is that evidence can be conflicting and people on both sides rather than try to work through things tend to be partisan from the very start, also there is a lot of "if themuns believe such and such than Im agin it going on" and beyond those things I don't believe that I am in a position to make a judgement on the issues.

However I do find it bemusing that a lot of people who take pretty extreme understandings of the the belief in man made climate change are not also because of that into either serious survivalism stuff or "Earth Liberation"/Deep Ecology things or both. "owedtojoy" over on P.ie would be an example of this.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Not if you are living in some Kibbutz in occupied Palestine and have a trawl of Thai, Philipino and indigenous helots to do the work of tractors for you you don't.

The thing about the climate change debates is that evidence can be conflicting and people on both sides rather than try to work through things tend to be partisan from the very start, also there is a lot of "if themuns believe such and such than Im agin it going on" and beyond those things I don't believe that I am in a position to make a judgement on the issues.

However I do find it bemusing that a lot of people who take pretty extreme understandings of the the belief in man made climate change are not also because of that into either serious survivalism stuff or "Earth Liberation"/Deep Ecology things or both. "owedtojoy" over on P.ie would be an example of this.

Not really, I was on board with man made climate change until I started to actually think about it, then I became partisan. .

 

[clarke-connolly]

This Man knows what the EU Empire is all about.


View: https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1767175380023017795

 

[Tiger]

This is an interesting Delingpole podcast with Marc Morano on the Climate Change nonsense

 

[Professor]

This is an interesting Delingpole podcast with Marc Morano on the Climate Change nonsense

To summarise @Myles O'Reilly From now on you'll be traveling to England and France by sail & oar,
Dublin to Wexford and Cork the same . . . .

 

[valamhic]

Plenty of manufacturers in Europe Val.

List of European Agricultural Tractors Companies - Ezilon.com

List of European agricultural tractors companies based in Europe.

www.ezilon.com

Nothing like there was. There is a big difference in the quality. No heat treatment given.

 

[Professor]

Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.

But actually, you would. Simply hitch-up the wee plough to the donkey/mule/cow/horse and turn the sods, they'll(furry friends) also help with transportation and weed/grass cutting (chemical/machine free atmosphere).
Plant potatoes & turnip as fuel for horse power.

 

[Professor]

Buddy Love says a man called William F Nye who used Whale oil on watches and clocks was a better innovator than Pachurei.

But look at what humans did to the whales & oceans in a geological blink of an eye?
We've been and gone through the oceans & forests cutting it all down and now the age of oil is coming to an end.
All in the last short 300 years - Everything has been eaten up and shat out into the rivers & seas.
It's all coming to a swift end - even fracking is finished.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Everything has been eaten up and shat out into the rivers

Val, whom I trust because of his work on exposing wind farms, has said how dumping animal shit into rivers is good for ecology.

He's been doing it all his adult life and apparently its done nobody in east Cavan any harm.