The Climate Change scam

Myles O'Reilly said:
Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.
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Not if you are living in some Kibbutz in occupied Palestine and have a trawl of Thai, Philipino and indigenous helots to do the work of tractors for you you don't.

The thing about the climate change debates is that evidence can be conflicting and people on both sides rather than try to work through things tend to be partisan from the very start, also there is a lot of "if themuns believe such and such than Im agin it going on" and beyond those things I don't believe that I am in a position to make a judgement on the issues.

However I do find it bemusing that a lot of people who take pretty extreme understandings of the the belief in man made climate change are not also because of that into either serious survivalism stuff or "Earth Liberation"/Deep Ecology things or both. "owedtojoy" over on P.ie would be an example of this.
 
Zipporah's Flint said:
Not if you are living in some Kibbutz in occupied Palestine and have a trawl of Thai, Philipino and indigenous helots to do the work of tractors for you you don't.

The thing about the climate change debates is that evidence can be conflicting and people on both sides rather than try to work through things tend to be partisan from the very start, also there is a lot of "if themuns believe such and such than Im agin it going on" and beyond those things I don't believe that I am in a position to make a judgement on the issues.

However I do find it bemusing that a lot of people who take pretty extreme understandings of the the belief in man made climate change are not also because of that into either serious survivalism stuff or "Earth Liberation"/Deep Ecology things or both. "owedtojoy" over on P.ie would be an example of this.
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Not really, I was on board with man made climate change until I started to actually think about it, then I became partisan. .
 
This is an interesting Delingpole podcast with Marc Morano on the Climate Change nonsense

 
Tiger said:
This is an interesting Delingpole podcast with Marc Morano on the Climate Change nonsense

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To summarise @Myles O'Reilly From now on you'll be traveling to England and France by sail & oar,
Dublin to Wexford and Cork the same . . . .

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Myles O'Reilly said:
Without working Tractors you wouldn't have a bite to shove into your cake hole.
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But actually, you would. Simply hitch-up the wee plough to the donkey/mule/cow/horse and turn the sods, they'll(furry friends) also help with transportation and weed/grass cutting (chemical/machine free atmosphere).
Plant potatoes & turnip as fuel for horse power.
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
Buddy Love says a man called William F Nye who used Whale oil on watches and clocks was a better innovator than Pachurei.
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But look at what humans did to the whales & oceans in a geological blink of an eye?
We've been and gone through the oceans & forests cutting it all down and now the age of oil is coming to an end.
All in the last short 300 years - Everything has been eaten up and shat out into the rivers & seas.
It's all coming to a swift end - even fracking is finished.
 
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Professor said:
Everything has been eaten up and shat out into the rivers
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Val, whom I trust because of his work on exposing wind farms, has said how dumping animal shit into rivers is good for ecology.

He's been doing it all his adult life and apparently its done nobody in east Cavan any harm.
 
@Myles O'Reilly It means Val has to share some of his land back into the community society to provide for horse tracks, common pasture & halting sites, vegetable allotments by the acre, etc etc.

Bring the country back to life for people!!
 
Halting sites? Hell will freeze over before he allows Knackers onto his land Sir.
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
Val, whom I trust because of his work on exposing wind farms, has said how dumping animal shit into rivers is good for ecology.

He's been doing it all his adult life and apparently its done nobody in east Cavan any harm.
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The fish and other aquatic life might be whinging though, those that are left that is.
 
Professor said:
But actually, you would. Simply hitch-up the wee plough to the donkey/mule/cow/horse and turn the sods, they'll(furry friends) also help with transportation and weed/grass cutting (chemical/machine free atmosphere).
Plant potatoes & turnip as fuel for horse power.
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I trust you jest. If not then I'll have a shot at explaining why that idea is pure fanatsy.
 
Professor said:
But look at what humans did to the whales & oceans in a geological blink of an eye?
We've been and gone through the oceans & forests cutting it all down and now the age of oil is coming to an end.
All in the last short 300 years - Everything has been eaten up and shat out into the rivers & seas.
It's all coming to a swift end - even fracking is finished.
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I think you worry a little too much. Our treatment of the whales is inexcusable I'll agree, and we should stop cutting down forests, but those forests are recovering when the ground is abandoned and I just hope and pray the whale population will also climb again. As I have pointed out before, the earth is actually getting greener thanks to increased CO2 levels , they were getting dangerously low.
 
Kangal said:
Plus the idea that more CO2 is better for crops is wrong. It's the opposite in fact.

yaleclimateconnections.org

More CO2 in the atmosphere hurts key plants and crops more than it helps » Yale Climate Connections

The familiar adage - too much of a good thing is a bad thing - applies to atmospheric carbon dioxide: In higher concentrations, it is a damaging pollutant.
yaleclimateconnections.org yaleclimateconnections.org

nca2018.globalchange.gov

Fourth National Climate Assessment: Chapter 10: Agriculture and Rural Communities

This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the second of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.
nca2018.globalchange.gov nca2018.globalchange.gov


I suppose there will be more "greening" but it's not stuff we are
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Total bollux. Now go back and learn a little basic biology.

Good to see the climate change nutters runnng scared though.
 
Kangal said:
I suppose there will be more "greening" but it's not stuff we are going to eat.
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I thought that's the stuff you people like. Natural growth, bio-diversity etc.

Thought it was agriculture and crops yis were against?
 
Kangal said:
Not me Myles. I'm more of an old fashioned political realist in world affairs, "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers" type of stuff.
So the impacts on agriculture (and fresh water) are what's interesting to me. That directly impacts people, politalical structures, and nations.

I don't want to say the impacts on the environment are not important - noone wants sewage or chemicals dumped in a river, but environmental initiatives have to be balanced against human needs.
How we meet those needs is where the discussion is.
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As you shill for warmongers who blow up gas pipelines and continue to feed human beings into the meat grinders of war.
You are a sick and perverted individual, Wnk.
 
Kangal said:
Not me Myles. I'm more of an old fashioned political realist in world affairs, "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers" type of stuff.
So the impacts on agriculture (and fresh water) are what's interesting to me. That directly impacts people, politalical structures, and nations.

I don't want to say the impacts on the environment are not important - noone wants sewage or chemicals dumped in a river, but environmental initiatives have to be balanced against human needs.
How we meet those needs is where the discussion is.
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But first you need to get a grip upon the subject, and you show no evidence of doing so.
 
A few updates on wind as it relates to climate. Two Wexford households took a nuisance case against the local wind farm. The wind crowd joined up in a effort to beat it. Woman Judge Egan did a great job and ruled that
there was nuisance . It is adjourned to consider what is to be done. This differs from previous cases in that a precedent is now set for nuisance.

The 2nd big news is that the Highest Court in France has ruled that the guidelines there are illegal. This follows on from C - 24/19.

If you want any more detail ask.
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
What is your opinion of Val who engages in that activity?
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Dublin corporation is doing it all the time. The ESB is pumping oil into the Liffey.

There was an old saying.

Pull the chain and in a Jiffy,
Your shite goes flowing down the Liffey.

Why is everyone out the get at a poor rural farmer whose contribution to river pollution is minimal?
 
Kangal said:
is this true, @valamhic ?
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Once again you're trying to get a poster here, who is well known publicly, to admit to criminal acts.
What a sick little bastard you are.

@valamhic
Don't answer the scumbag above, he'll have the EPA out to you in a flash, if he hasn't already made the call.


It's time Kangal's IP address was reported to AGS and TUSLA.
It's hobbies need to be investigated.
 
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Saul & Wolf are right. On second thoughts Val don't incriminate yourself.

That individual, Kangal, has a history of reporting folk to the Police. He reported Pish once for being a "Hate Site".
 
Myles O'Reilly said:
I wan't talking about Val. I meant to say Dónal. There's a farmer called Dónal doing it.
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How do you know about Donal? He lives a bit away from me (12 miles) but I go hunting rabbits on his place.

He lives in a remote country cottage near a river about 5 feet wide and with a rocky bank each side as in a creek or
small hollow. He has no running water at all and uses a well up in a field for water for his house. Years ago his late father placed two wooden poles across the river and Donal since replaced these with steel girders. In the middle is a toilet hut, like a phone box with a seat with a round hole in it. and all the stuff drops directly into the river, and the paper he gets from old farmers Journals. He has to stop using glossy magazines from the Vogue Magazine for some reason. I don't know if it is legal or not. The box looks very comfortable; and is insulated. You can see the water flowing below the hole and there is an ask tray in it and windows each side. There is a walkway on his side and not on the opposite side as it is for private use.

I wanted to use it was a hide to ambush grey crows but he refused saying he wanted to be sure it was few in case he got an upset stomach.
 
Kangal said:
Jaysus, you really are desperate to avoid any apology to Val, aren't ya?
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He thinks I am a sort of country bumpkin curmudgeon. Did you ever hear the song I wrote in a YT channel?

It is sang by some lad, I might find it for you? Surely I cannot be that stupid if I can write a song
 
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