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It's not easily demonstrated nor explained. Gravity even affects time.
So gravity can't easily be demonstrated or explained, but you're sure it affects time. Explain to me how a concept (gravity) can affect another concept (time) and how both of those affect physical reality. Gravity cannot be demonstrated at all, and even the pseudo-scientists have trouble explaining it.

Cavendish is not a scientific experiment, it's a parlour trick. An experiment requires a naturally observed phenomenon but there is none in the Cavendish trick. Also, in order to prove gravity as the cause of an effect, the experiment would require one to be able to manipulate gravity as the independent variable.

Furthermore, the Cavendish trick is about mass attracting mass, not what gravity is now claimed to be, i.e. bendy space time.
 

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August 10 sees the russian craft launched, August 23 sees the indian craft land, and Aug 23 sees the japanese craft launched. So roll on.
 

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Ok, Perhaps I see his difficulty, it's Eric Dubay, yay?
OK, I seem to remember that part of his belief system is that ' gravity does not exist' therefore he is mystified and makes completely different observations to the heliocentrist.
The moon is bound to the earth by fundamental forces which make them orbit the sun as a single unit - In other words the earth carries/orbits the moon around the sun. Other planets and their moons are observed doing the same thing, you can view the whole system in action captured live by telescope as has been recorded for centuries.
Cancelling out physics as ED does, requires fundamental evidence of contrary science . . .
 

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That video is for slow people.

If I am on say the aircraft carrier JFK. I can walk in a circle of say 50 feet

I will walk at 3 miles an hour. The ship moves at say 9 mph. I dont suddenly start going 12 miles an hour and then slow to 6 miles an hour on the other side of my circle.

The earth is not flat(unfortunately)
 

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The russian launch is actually tomorrow
 

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The russian launch is hours away.

Meanwhile space tourism got a boost today.
Am wondering if those space capsule escapades will encounter 'challengering' conditions someday?
Meanwhile when passengers observe the far horizons they will have absolute certainty in whether there are curves or edges to be seen, but of course they'll be wondering if the portholes have fisheye windows installed:D or do the curvy lenses flip down over the windows when branson asks them all to shut their eyes for 5 seconds during the in-flight SOS prayer:ROFLMAO:
 

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Yes, as pointed out. It has been launched successfully.
I think both it and the Indian craft will try to land on the same day which is aug 21. And an American craft is setting off about the same time.


The US is saying that a flyby with a crew will take place in late 2024 and a landing in 2025.
 

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This European craft is making a flyby about now.

The Russians one lands on August 21 and the Indian one on August 25

The russian entered orbit about the moon tomorrow.

Manned flyby in nov 2024 and landing on Dec 2025.

So the clock is ticking on finding if Armstrong was fake , fifty five years before.
 

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Is Russia looking to expose the US moon landings as the fakes they are?

They supposedly left a lot of junk behind. Let's see if we get any decent photos
 

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The poor suckers in 1969 never dreamt of the possibility that they were being duped. Walter Cronkite was everyone's trusted family member.

Let's see if they can soft land as a beginning
The Indian one failed 4 years ago.
 

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Is Russia looking to expose the US moon landings as the fakes they are?

They supposedly left a lot of junk behind. Let's see if we get any decent photos
I should think that Russia has been looking very closely at the claimed moon landing areas with the satellites and telescopes it has nowadays. Picking out out the leftovers shouldn't be too difficult with the optics and image processing available, if there are any.
 

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I should think that Russia has been looking very closely at the claimed moon landing areas with the satellites and telescopes it has nowadays. Picking out out the leftovers shouldn't be too difficult with the optics and image processing available, if there are any.
I have a feeling that if we do get a landing, any camera work will be in a weird spot, with a very limited field of view, pointed into the dirt mostly. Watch this space .

Mad that no drone tech has gone up there either.
 

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I should think that Russia has been looking very closely at the claimed moon landing areas with the satellites and telescopes it has nowadays. Picking out out the leftovers shouldn't be too difficult with the optics and image processing available, if there are any.
Russia already knows space is fake and that the moon landing never happened and never will. So does every other country with a space agency and probably every country signed up to the Antarctic Treaty. The high-level authority figures know, but the minions and useful idiots in the (pseudo)science community still believe in space.
 

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A: This is video of Devon island, in Canada
B. I was talking about the moon.

Also, NASA video equipment seems to be about 60 years behind the rest of us conveniently
 
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You want a drone to fly on the Moon?
On the moon, near the moon, around the Moon. I'm not fussy at this point. And yes, they have rocket drones vs the prop versions :

NASA is using different types of drones that drive through jets of oxygen gas or water vapor to move around. This is currently the only way drones are working in Space

 

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Russia already knows space is fake and that the moon landing never happened and never will. So does every other country with a space agency and probably every country signed up to the Antarctic Treaty. The high-level authority figures know, but the minions and useful idiots in the (pseudo)science community still believe in space.
Sources for your point of view?(that's ok it's your personal view, fair enough) Actually it's your asserted POV for the Heliocentrician's that certainly require established sources of reference for us today.

Your claims here are beyond extraordinary surely, what proof this time?
There'll soon be much more up to date evidence available, things are going to get very busy 😅
 

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Already done.


"On 17 November at 10:32 UT the vernier engines were fired for 2.5 seconds, causing Surveyor to lift off the lunar surface 3 to 4 meters and land about 2.4 meters west of its original position. This lunar "hop" represented the first powered takeoff from the lunar surface and furnished new information on the effects of firing rocket engines on the Moon, allowed viewing of the original landing site, and provided a baseline for stereoscopic viewing and photogrammetric mapping of the surrounding terrain."
Amazing! Once again NASA's camera and video tech has failed us, on what should have been a pretty historic event. Starting to feel like we will never see the 'moon rover' again. And apparently we cannot match the tech of 50 years ago, to achieve a similar result with modern video.
 

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Both craft should now be in lunar orbit and both will be on the surface either intact on shattered in a week.

No need for droves, orbitals should be able to see absolutely everything as I believe they are just 60 miles high.

I can myself see 60 miles away easily. Only good footage will convince me, this grainy stuff will not.

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Is Russia looking to expose the US moon landings as the fakes they are?

They supposedly left a lot of junk behind. Let's see if we get any decent photos
On the other hand I have visions of aliens wandering round with bin bags and pointed sticks grumbling on about effin humans leaving the kip in a right mess.
 

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Aldrin is still alive at 93 so I hope he lives another two years at least.
 

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