An Open Letter to Atheists

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Is it the atheism or the sci-fi that brings out the pedophilia in the genre?

I'd say it's the latter.

 

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You still haven’t told us how you can do regular 20 hour marathons on this and other forums.
With multiple accounts.

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Atheism isn't a movement. It doesn't say anything.
No one but you said any of this. But that's because you're autistic and have no nuance in you.

Atheism is position, a cosmology, a world view. It is the necessary default position on which to build many unpleasant ideas. Pro-predosim being one. Just ask your mate Dawkins. He's a wrong 'un
 

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It isn't any of those things.

It is simply having no belief in gods.

If you do not believe in the existence of an Absolute Personal God than that is going to effect how you view the world.

Also you can be an atheist and believe in small "g" gods- Buddhism for instance is atheist but it allows for godlings, ghosts, etc.
 

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Sci-fi is largely populated by atheists. It also has a major pedo problem, both in the author and fanboy sphere:

sci fi has a pedo problem


That is very true and it is something I don't understand.

And it is not just Star Trek which has this problem it seems- just look into Arthur C Clarke and Isaac Asimov who were two of the biggest "Sci-Fi" people of the second half of the 20 th century.



That said I think these pedo stuff is much more of a Satanist, dark Occultist, Witch, etc thing particularly than an atheist one as such.
 

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If you do not believe in the existence of an Absolute Personal God than that is going to effect how you view the world.
But it doesn't dominate how you view the world. It's only a part. Family, culture, nationality, education and a host of other things also contribute to a world view.
 

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It is simply having no belief in gods.
That is a position dingbat .

So, this thread then is an open letter to no one at all related to nothing at all? Is that the sum of yours and Dawson's position? A waste of time in other words
 

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In theory being atheist is just holding an opinion like any other, in practice it can dominate a person's outlook on everything. In practice most will move from a belief in God to an overarching belief in law and a concensus in the establishment generally (because you are looking for a God substitute in a way a theist isn't).

In my opinion this is the primary cause why so many people seem unable to oppose the state and its laws when they should, when they turn tyrannous like now in modern Ireland. Hence the establishment promotes atheism, generally by endlessly rubbishing the Church, to secure its position.
 

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Quotes by famous atheists:

  • “You, your joys and your sorrows, your memories and ambitions, your sense of personal identity and free will, are in fact no more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules.”
    —Dr. Francis Crick, molecular biologist, biophysicist, and neuroscientist
  • “How can we be “free” as conscious agents if everything that we consciously intend is caused by events in our brain that we do not intend, and of which we are entirely unaware? We can’t…Free will is an illusion. Our wills are simply not of our own making. We do not have the freedom we think we have.”
    —Dr. Sam Harris, neuroscientist
 

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If you think the establishment don't rubbish the Church very deliberately and conciously here is an example:

Not long ago, led by the Joe Duffy show, we had the usual gigantic wave of media hype screaming at the Catholic Church, in this case against Blackrock College in Dublin. There most of the allegations centred around a dead priest, who hotly denied the allegations during his lifetime and who was never convicted of them. But somehow his Order apologised for him (the religious orders are doing this a lot, for priests and nuns who are clearly completely innocent) and hence its all believed against him, despite the priests denials and no conviction. Other than that they had smallish cases dealt with years ago and the people involved rightly punished. Anyway people I know who have gone to Blackrock and knew the priests involved think many of these allegations are just false, but that story doesn't get told.

Now contrast that with similar allegations made against politicians or social workers or the media, or against judges in modern Ireland. I think in pretty much all such cases the allegations are blanked out of popular consciousness completely, unless there is an actual conviction. Even then its not dwelled on very much and in many cases the perpetrator is still anonymous (they claim its to protect the victim).

Then see what happens if you put the boot on the other foot, ask yourself what level of publicity attacks against priests get. Just a few days ago, for example, a couple of priests in a parochial house in Co Louth were attacked by a gang with axes and then sprayed with bleach. That got 24 media hype of course, no? Hadn't actually heard of it did you? You see whats happening...

If you have lived the last few decades in Ireland you are absolutely the victim of a very definite and deliberate campaign against the Church, just like always happens in any other Communist country.
 

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