An Open Letter to Atheists

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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=slr1UFrFiY8

 

[AN2]

lol Another DI (Discovery Institute) hire -

Michael Egnor - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

No one should want that guy anywhere near then with a scalpel

 

[Tiger]

I'm not doing X, I'm doing Y..




Tiger would have us believe in alien abduction



It's not X, it's Y

And I mean, how stupid is "Materialism of the Gaps", where did you hear that from, a Daily Dose Of Special Needs YouTube video?

Science doesn't fill gaps in knowledge and understanding (with the supernatural), that's the point. Dreary me

James ‘the dodger’ Dawson; you’re dodging again. When you can’t answer the evidence, you retreat into vague word-games and cheap childish insults. The phrase ‘Materialism of the Gaps’ isn’t YouTube fluff : it’s simply describing what you’re doing: assuming without evidence that science will someday explain away data that currently completely contradicts your worldview. That’s textbook promissory materialism.

The casual reader will notice that you haven't challenged the evidence in any way shape or form.

You've got nothing by way of explanation.

Nothing.

 

[Tiger]

No, it's really not. It's Daily Dose Of Special Needs and another religiotard babble incoherently about "materialism" for almost two hours

My pet dog is better at debating than you are James. Resorting to childish insults isn’t an argument. If anything, it's tantamount to admitting defeat.

Dr. Egnor is citing real clinical data—patients missing most of their brains who still function normally, conscious individuals with no cerebral hemispheres, and people who report accurate experiences during clinical death when the brain is shut down. In one particular case, the patient has had all the blood removed from her brain to allow the surgeon to repair an aneurysm.

These facts exist whether you like them or not. Materialism can’t explain them, and sneering at those who point it out won’t make the evidence go away.

You have literally no argument in response so far.

 

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My pet dog is better at debating than you are James. Resorting to childish insults isn’t an argument. If anything, it's tantamount to admitting defeat.

Dr. Egnor is citing real clinical data—patients missing most of their brains who still function normally, conscious individuals with no cerebral hemispheres, and people who report accurate experiences during clinical death when the brain is shut down. In one particular case, the patient has had all the blood removed from her brain to allow the surgeon to repair an aneurysm.

These facts exist whether you like them or not. Materialism can’t explain them

And you explain them with your God stuff

Not to mention your "facts" don't show that consciousness can exist apart from the body. This was mentioned to you early doors but you don't listen to anything that's said to you

, and sneering at those who point it out won’t make the evidence go away.

You have literally no argument in response so far.

 

[Tiger]

And you explain them with your God stuff

Haha, you bloody ding dong - it’s not me who ‘brought God into this’ ; it’s the patients themselves you wally.

People who were clinically dead consistently report encounters with God, Christ, or angelic beings. That’s THEIR testimony, not my projection. And these testimonies come from every corner of the globe, across religions and cultures, with strikingly consistent patterns. What happens with them lies outside the explanatory scope of material science; which is why it challenges materialism so deeply.

Also, to be clear - I haven’t ‘explained this with ‘God stuff.’ I’ve pointed to peer-reviewed medical data (van Lommel in The Lancet, Parnia’s AWARE project, the European Academy of Neurology’s 2019 survey) showing patients with no measurable brain activity reporting structured, veridical experiences. That’s evidence, not theology.

Not to mention your "facts" don't show that consciousness can exist apart from the body. This was mentioned to you early doors but you don't listen to anything that's said to you

Naturally, your line that ‘the facts don’t show consciousness apart from the body’ is just a materialist mantra. The facts show that verifiable conscious experience occurs during periods when, under materialism, consciousness should be impossible; flatlined EEG, absent cortical function, sometimes for extended durations. That directly contradicts the materialist/atheist assumption that brain activity is consciousness.

So let’s flip it around: this isn’t me importing God; it’s you importing dogmatic materialism in the face of evidence that doesn’t fit. The data show consciousness functioning where your worldview says it cannot. If your only move is to ignore the evidence or call it ‘God of the Gaps,’ that’s not science; it’s denial.

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Haha, you bloody ding dong - it’s not me who ‘brought God into this’ ; it’s the patients themselves you wally.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dHd0_JelipE

You truly are a ridiculous person

People who were clinically dead consistently report encounters with God, Christ, or angelic beings. That’s THEIR testimony, not my projection. And these testimonies come from every corner of the globe, across religions and cultures, with strikingly consistent patterns. What happens with them lies outside the explanatory scope of material science; which is why it challenges materialism so deeply.

Also, to be clear - I haven’t ‘explained this with ‘God stuff.’ I’ve pointed to peer-reviewed medical data (van Lommel in The Lancet, Parnia’s AWARE project, the European Academy of Neurology’s 2019 survey) showing patients with no measurable brain activity reporting structured, veridical experiences. That’s evidence, not theology.



Naturally, your line that ‘the facts don’t show consciousness apart from the body’ is just a materialist mantra. The facts show that verifiable conscious experience occurs during periods when, under materialism, consciousness should be impossible; flatlined EEG, absent cortical function, sometimes for extended durations. That directly contradicts the materialist/atheist assumption that brain activity is consciousness.

So let’s flip it around: this isn’t me importing God; it’s you importing dogmatic materialism in the face of evidence that doesn’t fit. The data show consciousness functioning where your worldview says it cannot. If your only move is to ignore the evidence or call it ‘God of the Gaps,’ that’s not science; it’s denial.

Insert non-answer here

 

[Tiger]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dHd0_JelipE

You truly are a ridiculous person

Are you not embarrassed by your feeble attempt at addressing the evidence?

You’ve literally provided nothing.

Nothing. Not A SINGLE FUCKING THING.

 

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Are you not embarrassed by your feeble attempt at addressing the evidence?

You’ve literally provided nothing.

Nothing. Not A SINGLE FUCKING THING.

"It's not me who brought God into this".. is such a remarkable statement, what shall we put it down to, a complete lack of self-awareness?

 

[Tiger]

"It's not me who brought God into this".. is such a remarkable statement, what shall we put it down to, a complete lack of self-awareness?

For crying out loud James, that response is exactly what you always do when cornered: you can’t argue the point, so you dodge it with a childish - low IQ quip. It’s transparent. The irony is that you accuse me of lacking self-awareness, yet you’re the one avoiding the actual argument in front of you.

The record is clear: patients who were clinically dead brought God into this conversation; not me. They consistently describe encounters with transcendent beings, often Christ or angelic figures, across cultures and contexts. That testimony is what we’re discussing. You can sneer at it, but you can’t erase the fact that it’s there, documented, peer-reviewed, and consistent.

And once again, you’ve refused to answer the central problem: how do structured, verifiable perceptions occur during periods of flatlined EEG and absent cortical function? That’s the crux, and you know it. Instead of addressing it, you retreat into sarcasm, because deep down you understand that the data contradicts your materialist assumptions.

You’re a serial loser.

As usual you’re not debating; you’re dodging. And dodging is the refuge of someone who knows they can’t actually defend their position.

Insert low IQ non answer here

 

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For crying out loud James, that response is exactly what you always do when cornered

You don't corner me, you just don't pay any attention to what I say in reply. Twas always thus

: you can’t argue the point, so you dodge it with a childish - low IQ quip. It’s transparent. The irony is that you accuse me of lacking self-awareness, yet you’re the one avoiding the actual argument in front of you.

The record is clear: patients who were clinically dead brought God into this conversation; not me. They consistently describe encounters with transcendent beings, often Christ or angelic figures, across cultures and contexts. That testimony is what we’re discussing. You can sneer at it, but you can’t erase the fact that it’s there, documented, peer-reviewed, and consistent.

And once again, you’ve refused to answer the central problem: how do structured, verifiable perceptions occur during periods of flatlined EEG and absent cortical function? That’s the crux, and you know it. Instead of addressing it, you retreat into sarcasm, because deep down you understand that the data contradicts your materialist assumptions.

You’re a serial loser.

As usual you’re not debating; you’re dodging. And dodging is the refuge of someone who knows they can’t actually defend their position.

Insert low IQ non answer here

 

[Tiger]

"It's not me who brought God into this".. is such a remarkable statement, what shall we put it down to, a complete lack of self-awareness?

If you had one serious argument you’d make it. But you have none. You’re out of depth as usual.

I’m smashing your face in over and over again.

Tiger 5 - 0 James ‘the illiterate loser’ Dawson

 

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I have actually replied quite comprehensively to your God of the gaps fallacy, Tiger

Centered around the fact that none of your "facts" show that consciousness can exist apart from the body. Whether that's "witnesses" who have a NDE (they don't actually die Tiggy - only Jesus rose from the dead, you should know that) or people who are missing part of their brain

When you show me someone with an empty skull (which you're close to) or someone walking and talking days after they've died, then I'll believe you