Origins Thread

[Tiger]

It's hilarious because he never reads anything, watches any video etc., blissfully unaware of the fool he's making of himself, read the third bullet point -

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James, genuine question…have you been drinking? You’re literally going back to where we were over an hour ago.

Yes, the imaginary, magical beginning of life from non-life event - known as ‘abiogenesis’ is a different part of the atheist fantasy of how we got here, from the developmentally magical fantasy known as evolution.

You are allergic to discussing how life came from non-life and that’s understandable, because it makes no sense. However, there is still the issue that evolution cannot operate without a first self replicating, information bearing system. You’re simply trying to sidestep the issue, which is how random mutations could plausibly generate the complex, functional information in even the simplest cell. Evolution presupposes replication, variation, and selection; without these preconditions, there is nothing to evolve.

 

[Haven]

Tiger be like...

 

[AN2]

James, genuine question…have you been drinking? You’re literally going back to where we were over an hour ago.

Yes, the imaginary, magical beginning of life from non-life event - known as ‘abiogenesis’ is a different part of the atheist fantasy of how we got here, from the developmentally magical fantasy known as evolution.

You are allergic to discussing how life came from non-life and that’s understandable, because it makes no sense. However, there is still the issue that evolution cannot operate without a first self replicating, information bearing system. You’re simply trying to sidestep the issue, which is how random mutations could plausibly generate the complex, functional information in even the simplest cell. Evolution presupposes replication, variation, and selection; without these preconditions, there is nothing to evolve.

I mean, the levels of tiresomeness and obtuseness from you is unparalleled, champ

I see you've introduced another conflation, namely science and atheism

 

[Tiger]

Tiger be like...

Muh…AI….ehhh

Pathetic. I don’t need AI to eat you and James for breakfast. Why not just admit you have no answers? From Chat GPT or anything else on the internet. Why do you habitually troll?

Reality is reality.

 

[Tiger]

I mean, the levels of tiresomeness and obtuseness from you is unparalleled, champ

I see you've introduced another conflation, namely science and atheism

James ‘the question dodger’ Dawson strikes again….and again….and again…

 

[AN2]

James ‘the question dodger’ Dawson strikes again….and again….and again…

Again, objectively, you can only be described as trolling

 

[Tiger]

Again, objectively, you can only be described as trolling

Asking legitimate questions you can’t answer is not trolling.

 

[AN2]

Asking legitimate questions you can’t answer is not trolling.

Your questions have been answered, troll

 

[Tiger]

Your questions have been answered, troll

Saying….”muh…eh…expansive amounts of time….it’s complex and shit” does not count.

Only legitimate logical, verifiable scientific answers will be accepted.

There has been no proper replies. Shite, incorrect replies don’t count.

 

[AN2]

Saying….”muh…eh…expansive amounts of time….it’s complex and shit” does not count.

Only legitimate logical, verifiable scientific answers will be accepted.

There has been no proper replies. Shite, incorrect replies don’t count.

Haha.. Just blatantly strawmanning now..

 

[Tiger]

Haha.. Just blatantly strawmanning now..

Folks, James is about to win the Nobel prize for science for discovering something that nobody else has. The mystery of life…

Insert link to where you have properly addressed the issue here

 

[AN2]

Folks, James is about to win the Nobel prize for science for discovering something that nobody else has. The mystery of life…

Insert link to where you have properly addressed the issue here

lol That wasn't your question dummy, which you repeatedly embarrassed yourself by repeatedly asking..

 

[Tiger]

lol That wasn't your question dummy, which you repeatedly embarrassed yourself by repeatedly asking..

You’ve dodged so many questions it’s hard to keep up.

The latest question dodge was for this -

So, if (as you tell us) evolution doesn’t depend on replication, heritable variation, or selection, then what exactly is evolving?

or were you referring to one of your many earlier question dodges? Which question are you referring to?

 

[AN2]

Folks, James is about to win the Nobel prize for science for discovering something that nobody else has. The mystery of life…

Insert link to where you have properly addressed the issue here

This is why you're so tiresome, your question about evolution, which could be answered by a child, which you repeatedly asked, was answered

Now, in full desperation mode, you're conflating it with abiogenesis

And to top it all off, as you have been all throughout this thread, you're too much of a snivelling coward to openly state your answer (for the origin of life), instead you hide behind this ID pseudoscience nonsense, twas always thus

 

[AN2]

You’ve dodged so many questions it’s hard to keep up.

The latest question dodge was for this -

So, if (as you tell us) evolution doesn’t depend on replication, heritable variation, or selection, then what exactly is evolving?

or were you referring to one of your many earlier question dodges? Which question are you referring to?

More tiresomeness. The question is stupid. Evolution does "depend" on those things, if you want to put it that way

 

[Wolf]

Muh…AI….ehhh

Pathetic. I don’t need AI to eat you and James for breakfast. Why not just admit you have no answers? From Chat GPT or anything else on the internet. Why do you habitually troll?

Reality is reality.

Hey, at least it keeps they/them off the Ukraine thread, something that's actually relevant to people's lives.

 

[Haven]

Muh…AI….ehhh

Pathetic. I don’t need AI to eat you and James for breakfast.

Yet AI is all you use.

Why not just admit you have no answers? From Chat GPT or anything else on the internet.

Because you will just feed my posts back into an AI tool and instruct it to write a rebuttal and then post that output here.
You are not debating honestly. You are a cheat.

Why do you habitually troll?

Thats pretty ironic!

Reality is reality.

 

[AN2]

Yet AI is all you use.

Because you will just feed my posts back into an AI tool and instruct it to write a rebuttal and then post that output here.

So if you knew which AI tool he's using, then you might be able to show it giving "his" (Tiger's) reply almost word for word?

That would be fairly devastating for poor Tiger. Then again, the guy basically has no shame

 

[Tiger]

Yet AI is all you use.

Says the person who spent most of today using AI to try and debate me and still lost every single debate miserably. Pathetic.

Because you will just feed my posts back into an AI tool and instruct it to write a rebuttal and then post that output here.

Haha, of course- Oh, Tank has all the answers, however it’s that pesky AI that is the only reason he can’t debate and explain his (non) position.

You are not debating honestly. You are a cheat.

You can’t even win an argument against me with the full use of the world’s AI at your disposal. Maybe you should go read and a book or two.

Thats pretty ironic!

You’ve got nothing. Apparently I have access to AI that you don’t, which enables me to win arguments. It has nothing to do with the comlplete absence of any credible scientific data to back up your position. No it’s just AI.

Stupid mong.

 

[Tiger]

So if you knew which AI tool he's using, then you might be able to show it giving "his" (Tiger's) reply almost word for word?

That would be fairly devastating for poor Tiger. Then again, the guy basically has no shame

James, the only reason that I regularly eat you and Tank for breakfast is that I have the entire Russian bot system behind me.

I’m not even a real person. It has nothing to do with the fact that you can’t read and write and that there is no scientific data to back up your position

 

[AN2]

lol He's reached peak delusion

 

[Tiger]

lol He's reached peak delusion

Nope, I’m highlighting how stupid you and the establishment bootlicker - Tank’s arguments against me are. They’re retarded.

It is literally- ‘You are better at using AI than us’. That’s literally your defence.

 

[AN2]

I've already pointed out that you using AI is a red herring (that suits you)

If "Tank" wants to go that way, that's up to him

You're a completely and utterly deluded IDiot, that's the main reason why you have no credibility

Post in thread 'Origins Thread' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/origins-thread.639/post-146788

 

[Haven]

Says the person who spent most of today using AI to try and debate me and still lost every single debate miserably. Pathetic.

I was just pointing out your use of it. I got it to produce two competing views to an article, to make that point.

Either you have stupidly missed the point or you are being willfully dishonest about this. I think the latter.

Haha, of course- Oh, Tank has all the answers, however it’s that pesky AI that is the only reason he can’t debate and explain his (non) position.

You're the one generating posts with it.

You can’t even win an argument against me with the full use of the world’s AI at your disposal. Maybe you should go read and a book or two.

You're the one generating posts with it.

You’ve got nothing. Apparently I have access to AI that you don’t, which enables me to win arguments. It has nothing to do with the comlplete absence of any credible scientific data to back up your position. No it’s just AI.

Is that what you want? Do you want me to debate using AI too? I can do that. Let me know.

Stupid mong.

 

[Haven]

James, genuine question…have you been drinking? You’re literally going back to where we were over an hour ago.

Yes, the imaginary, magical beginning of life from non-life event - known as ‘abiogenesis’ is a different part of the atheist fantasy of how we got here, from the developmentally magical fantasy known as evolution.

You are allergic to discussing how life came from non-life and that’s understandable, because it makes no sense. However, there is still the issue that evolution cannot operate without a first self replicating, information bearing system. You’re simply trying to sidestep the issue, which is how random mutations could plausibly generate the complex, functional information in even the simplest cell. Evolution presupposes replication, variation, and selection; without these preconditions, there is nothing to evolve.

 

[Tiger]

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That’s me, so we can confidently stick ‘originality Ai’ in the bin. It’s clearly useless.

 

[Hermit]

How many AI detectors did you try before you got the answer you wanted?

I used the first two results from Google search.

91% that the content is human generated.

Not 100% though, and you missed the part in my screenshot that showed one sentence had a 16% likelihood of being AI-generated.

 

[AN2]

That’s me

And stupid

 

[AN2]

Good thread here on why creationists conflate abiogenesis and evolution -


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/j3g7uz/why_do_creationists_always_try_to_say_that/

 

[Haven]

I used the first two results from Google search.

Interesting. Please supply a screenshot.

Not 100% though, and you missed the part in my screenshot that showed one sentence had a 16% likelihood of being AI-generated.

So extremely high chance I wrote it, whiich of course I did.

Thanks dude.

 

[AN2]

Good thread here on why creationists conflate abiogenesis and evolution -


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/j3g7uz/why_do_creationists_always_try_to_say_that/

Here's an interesting comment -

But I think there's more than one reason someone might easily believe them to be the same thing. Many are taught that evolution is a threat to their entire religion as though "evolutionism" is some rival religion meant to replace Christianity. In there is lumped any threat to the particular dogma they've been convinced is the hill to die on. The big bang is evolution, star and planet formation is evolution etc.

Also when you convince people one very specific interpretation of the bible is utterly inerrant it only takes one little crack for the whole thing to look to be tumbling down. If the theory of evolution is true then parts of the bible you were told had to be absolutely literally true can't be. And many are convinced that if some parts aren't absolutely literally true then the whole thing must be false. It's not just that Adam and Eve did not literally exist. The origin of life, the basis for their moral code, the origin of the planet, the history of the universe, the meaning of life etc.

I hadn't thought of that, and yes, someone like @Tiger is a literalist (believes that Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse and so on) and thinks of atheism as a religion. Some religious people are profoundly anti-science, they have to be

 

[Tiger]

James, why are you having an autistic style conversation with yourself?

Do you find abiogenesis embarrassing to talk about or something?

 

[AN2]

James, why are you having an autistic style conversation with yourself?

Do you find abiogenesis embarrassing to talk about or something?

At this stage I'm more or less just psychoanalyzing you (debate with you is essentially impossible)

So you actually think that I would be "embarrassed" to talk about abiogenesis, because it's something that's not fully understood? Fascinating

 

[Tiger]

At this stage I'm more or less just psychoanalyzing you (debate with you is essentially impossible)

It’s coming across as nutty and desperate.

So you actually think that I would be "embarrassed" to talk about abiogenesis, because it's something that's not fully understood? Fascinating

Yes

 

[AN2]

Yes

Well, you're wrong

It doesn't cause me any embarrassment whatsoever

 

[AN2]

Yes

I'll psychoanalyze this thusly:

You think atheism/evolution/science is my "religion" (opposed to yours), so I should be embarrassed if it doesn't have all the answers, a sort of projection of yourself

 

[Wolf]

Interesting. Please supply a screenshot.

So extremely high chance I wrote it, whiich of course I did.

Thanks dude.

'dude'.....

 

[Haven]

'dude'.....

 

[Tiger]

I'll psychoanalyze this thusly:

You think atheism/evolution/science is my "religion" (opposed to yours), so I should be embarrassed if it doesn't have all the answers, a sort of projection of yourself

Stop embarrassing yourself James.

Stop spamming the thread too.

 

[AN2]

Stop embarrassing yourself James.

Stop spamming the thread too.

I'm doing neither. Stop lying

PS. Oh, the irony