Ukraine.

[Deleted member 122]

So if there are 20 in the picture, 5 come from Jordan 7 from Somalia and 8 come from the Ukraine and I am a nationalist.

But if there were 20 in it and 6 come from Nigeria, 3 come from Turkey, 2 come from Tanzania and 9 from Ukraine what does that
made me?

What? If you have "no indication" of where they are from, implying that they could all be Ukrainian (for all you know) then that would make you a civic nationalist.

And it wouldn't even matter to a nationalist if they were born in Ukraine. Although I doubt most, if any, of the Africans were, which begs the question.. If they have home countries to go to why aren't they "fleeing" there instead of Ireland. Well, I can think of one reason, I mean the guy on the right looks like he thinks he's just won the fucking lottery

 

[Declan]

When does the money run out.
I heard on a telegram clip how a woman saw a Ukrainian get a 1000 euro from a post office??

 

[Deleted member 122]

I read somewhere that an extra 35,000 new permanent homes may need to be built for the fugees (presumably they'll steal the rest from Irish people).

But sure, they'll all be heading back to the motherland once d'war is over..

Late Stage Ireland

Ukraine is his motherland. 🔗 irishtimes.com

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[Deleted member 122]

They are welfare tourists. I could do with more enlightenment on the meaning of civic nationalist. If being a nationalist means
holding an affiliation to Ireland then I would appear to be one. I am confused with the civic bit, I don't think much of my Irish neighbours.

First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party is an avowed civic nationalist -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNr9xJaAJjw&t=2m13s

 

[Declan]

So a civic nationalist is someone that recognizes a fictitious country, in this case Scotland, and accepts that anyone can be part of that community. A Chinese person lands, gets an accent and wears a kilt, and to her is a Scot from then on.

What term is used to describe a person that believes a Scot can only be for example a McGregor, whose family has lived there for a 1000 years.

Very very few imo are familiar with the tern civic nationalist.

 

[Deleted member 122]

So a civic nationalist is someone that recognizes a fictitious country, in this case Scotland, and accepts that anyone can be part of that community. A Chinese person lands, gets an accent and wears a kilt, and to her is a Scot from then on.

A civic nationalist is someone who believes that anyone can be Scottish, that's the principle, with some proviso I suppose. Such as with Thin Lips, that they have to live in Scotland, commonly known as the -

Urban Dictionary: magic dirt theory

magic dirt theory: The idea that where a person lives determines their behavior, when [in reality] it's [the people] who live in a given location that...

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Of course, our shower (of Marxist Globalists), Sinn Fein, would be no different. It's tragic that so many people believe that these parties are nationalist.. When they're busily engaged in heaping up their own nation's funeral pyre.

What term is used to describe a person that believes a Scot can only be for example a McGregor, whose family has lived there for a 1000 years.

Very very few imo are familiar with the tern civic nationalist.

Depends on who you're talking to I suppose. In the circles I do be listening in, it's a common (and fully understood) term, so common that's it's often abbreviated to - civnat. And those circles would be ethnonationalist, or just nationalist (a real one).

 

[Declan]

Thanks for pointing this out because it has been a source of confusion in the past.

Another would be those that support just (gaelic) Irish and not concerned about other whites such as the English or germans etc.

Am I right in thinking that they would be ethno nationalists.

 

[Declan]

Nationalists have had a good result in Hungary it appears indeed.

 

[Deleted member 122]

Thanks for pointing this out because it has been a source of confusion in the past.

Another would be those that support just (gaelic) Irish and not concerned about other whites such as the English or germans etc.

Am I right in thinking that they would be ethno nationalists.

Sure, I don't see why not.

Although I think it's silly to be so eh, insular. After all, we're all in the same boat, with the same (anti-white) target on our back.

I really don't spend much mental energy thinking of Ireland as a sovereign state (as opposed to a province of globalism)

 

[Anderson]

It seems like the Ukes are no pushover. Moscow has given up on Kiev. So long as the Ukraine government can be there, western aid will
flood in and they will push the Russians back. The Ukes have already attacked an oil depot inside Russia itself with helicopters and they brought down a Russian Helicopter with a missile made in Belfast.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaz8RrsRKyc

Of course, they are no pushover, they are being supported by the most powerful military in the world, it is Russia V the west.

 

[Deleted member 122]

Nationalists have had a good result in Hungary it appears indeed.

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[Declan]

Has Russia secured Mariupol. Securing a land route to Crimea and taking the Donbas was probably the objective all along.

 

[Anderson]

Has Russia secured Mariupol. Securing a land route to Crimea and taking the Donbas was probably the objective all along.

I hear they secure it every 2 weeks!

 

[Declan]

Did you seewhere that Irish economist, Williams, said there is only 2 weeks of diesel left in Ireland. Outcomes from 2refinaries in England that have no crude oil.
Obviously they will supply the English market first.

 

[Anderson]

This is supposedly a Russian Tank in Ukraine!


View: https://youtu.be/mRTzUHmx9ZA

 

[Anderson]

Will Finland join?

Finland gears up for historic NATO decision

Only six of Finland’s 200 MPs in a recent poll by public broadcaster Yle openly voiced anti-NATO views.

www.thejournal.ie

Well if Russia nukes that place there is a certain lad from Lexilip who will be distraught

 

[Anderson]

Ukraine going all ISIS


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1513140364521185280

 

[Anderson]

AZOZ abandoned


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1513171520268509187

 

[Anderson]

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1513133365880242179

 

[Declan]

This is supposedly a Russian Tank in Ukraine!


View: https://youtu.be/mRTzUHmx9ZA

The wolverines is of course is an American college football team from Michigan

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

The stories are coming thick and fast now.

Was in a well known Dublin pub today and the Landlady took on a Ukrainian girl who had 'fled' the war.

* Wasn't in the door 5 minutes but asked for a Latte with Vanilla. Landlady said for who and she said "me".
* When asked why she ended up in Ireland she said she'd gone to Germany first to visit her cousins but then 'chose' Ireland.
* Insulted the Irish girls working there.
* Was sacked before the day was out

Romanian barman said he's getting calls from his people back home saying the refugees there are beating the natives for not giving them good enough food. Showed me his phone where his child's Dublin school has raised 8k and said some parents donated 400 quid.

The three of us agreed Irish people have lost the plot.

 

[Declan]

True, but the reference isn't to the Michigan team. It's the school mascot of their hometown in Calumet, Colorado.

Thank you for the clarification. Anyway, it is an American tank. Could be a Soviet tank in the possession of the americans for training of course. I can not differentiate tanks.

 

[Declan]

The stories are coming thick and fast now.

Was in a well known Dublin pub today and the Landlady took on a Ukrainian girl who had 'fled' the war.

* Wasn't in the door 5 minutes but asked for a Latte with Vanilla. Landlady said for who and she said "me".
* When asked why she ended up in Ireland she said she'd gone to Germany first to visit her cousins but then 'chose' Ireland.
* Insulted the Irish girls working there.
* Was sacked before the day was out

Romanian barman said he's getting calls from his people back home saying the refugees there are beating the natives for not giving them good enough food. Showed me his phone where his child's Dublin school has raised 8k and said some parents donated 400 quid.

The three of us agreed Irish people have lost the plot.

They have totally lost it. The village of Newbridge in Galway rehabbed the old school to 3 apartments and three shythehawks donated three empty houses. They will be surprised when the leave that the Ukrainian word for temporary is foreverski. I know people that gave hundreds of pound.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

To clarify You went in alone to a pub that had hired a Ukrainian waitress/bar tender. She refused to serve you because
it was beneath her status as superior? Is that it?

No Sir. The Uke girl was hired to wait tables but instead wanted to be waited on herself!

 

[Declan]

Lol, just wait til the full 200000 get there. How many have landed so far. maybe 15000, so just 185000 to go.

 

[Declan]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irw8e4MuirU&t=16s


I also expect that Putin now in the next very few days, must force the Ukes to surrender. So it will escalate big time in my view and people in the leadership are going to be targetted.

Mercour has been proven wrong up to now. He said it would all be soon over. The sanctions are hurting very badly, the fact is
the west are coming after Russia, China and India.

 

[Declan]

He just managed to sink Russia's Flagship on the Black sea. A major embarrassment for Putin and a blow to his ability to win.

This is an important point in the bigger picture and its meaning is not discussed.
The reality is that all surface ships are just sitting ducks and can not defend against missiles. This missile was supposedly going 800 mph which is slow compared to hypersonic ones the Russians and others have.

 

[Declan]

Hard to get decent accurate news but it seems Kiev saw for real bombing last night. What Putin will likely do no is just starve the Ukrainians out. He will hold the territory he has and that takes away the Uke economy. Time is on Putins side. As food shortages etc spread there and soon in the West, it will be hard for support to be maintained. I assume that many thousands of Ukrainian troops are still surrounded in the East

 

[Declan]

They joining Nato is no great change as they are I believe further from Moscow than Poland and missiles there does not shorten the flight time. Parts of Ukraine on the other hand are even to the EAST of Moscow.

 

[Anderson]

I think the Russians are mighty pissed at the sinking of the Moscow.

 

[Declan]

And suspect someone in a warmer spot than Kiev was at the joystick

 

[Declan]

You think the yanks did it.

Who knows but certainly the Russians would suspect it.

 

[Declan]

It is to bea global economic war it seems and I expect Putin to triumph. My yardstick is the interest rate on US bonds. Thursday they sold off big time and this coming week could see the 10 year break 3%.

 

[Declan]

MSN

www.msn.com

The war now has entered a new phase where the Ukrainian civilian population will be decimated. Expect another 5 million to flee west

 

[Thelasthurrah]

Well if Russia nukes that place there is a certain lad from Lexilip who will be distraught

Ballyfermot, surely?

 

[Irish Warrior]

He just managed to sink Russia's Flagship on the Black sea. A major embarrassment for Putin and a blow to his ability to win.

It was a 40 year old ship, it was supposed to be taken out of service 20 years ago but wasn't because some arsehole wanted it renamed and kept in service. It caught fire internally.
It was cheaper to sink it than repair it as there's a new flag ship being built.
Lay off the Western coolaid. Ukraine is in bits. Even with all the NATO weapons being sent. Most of which have been seized by Russian Forces and used on Ukrainians.. 21 NATO countries on Russia's list.
NATO is basically getting their ass handed to them by less than 50% of the Russian Army who have taken double the size of England so far.
Ukraine has to go cap in hand looking for 50 billion off the IMF, pay for the weapons they're buying. Western plan is coming along nicely to make Ukraine a debt slave like the rest of us with retarded leaders.
Russia wasn't having any of it. And rightly so.

 

[Irish Warrior]

I think the Russians are mighty pissed at the sinking of the Moscow.

Not really, they decided to sink it themselves rather than pay to repair the 40 year old ship that was supposed to be taken out of service 20 years ago.

 

[Irish Warrior]

The ship lasted 40 years and suddenly sinks on the 7th week of a war?

After an internal fire that they didn't deem it valuable enough to fix after all the crew and weaponry was removed after it made its own way back to a port. They brought it off and sank it.
You really don't get the Russian or Slav mentality do you?
Westerners believe whatever fairy story takes their fancy and are like clapping seals for the propaganda.
Absolutely amazing and embarrassing at the same time to be honest. The collective West has a lower IQ than the average African now by the looks of it.

 

[Declan]

While it us hard to imagine the Russians scuttling the ship, it is actually possible. The reason being that it is obvious to them and everyone else that the technology has made ships like these obsolete and just death traps. Supposedly it was distracted by drones and hit bt two VERY SLOW missiles going about 750 mph. The Russians and Chinese have missiles that go about 4000 mph and supposedly if the warhead does not even explode, the kinetic enengy in of itself from the mass and velocity, would sink a arrier.
I believe it would not be refitted but it hardly was scuttled, it just sank.

 

[Irish Warrior]

They could not remove all the arms and kit on board in that time, some are bolted down and there may be nuclear weapons. There are
tools and workshop machines and medical stuff . A ship like that would practice fire drill every week. It would have a scrap value and possibly value to other purposes. The quality of its metals would be high and valuable. It would have several first class diesel electricity generators

I believe it was hit from above by a missile. The top is the most vulnerable part and hull was punctured at the keel. A vessel like that could be burned out and still stay afloat provided it was water tight below.
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Russia would be mad to scuttle her at this time, it would be bound to provide a moral boost to Ukraine and make Russia a laughing stock.

I don't care what you choose to believe. That's your choice and you can continue to convince yourself of whatever you want. The first thing that should make you think twice is that Zelensky said he did it.
He's doing nothing but sacrificing men in tunnels for his own ego.
The West is so desperate to win that they'll repeat it and send arms to Ukraine for something to gossip and whinge about.
The ship is an embarrassing situation yes. Nothing more. Move on and stop wasting your time imagining stuff. If Zelensky and Ukraine had sank that ship there'd be a video of it doing the rounds. Not the fakes from other wars.